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German police celebrates International Women’s Day (i.imgur.com)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tells me your brainwashed. You know the internet is free right, there's a boy younger than 10 being chased by 2 or 3 police men for having a Palestinian flag while he runs for his life and then is beaten. This "kalifat" bs you're talking about is just straight up lies

[–] bestboyfriendintheworld 1 points 13 minutes ago

Do you have a source for that?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You will find anything on the WWW, if you just look for it. Whether it's a person with a rainbow flag, a woman, or a person of any religion getting beaten up. Just open Twitter and there you go...

What do you mean bs? It was a video in which people demanded a kalifat for Palestine and the others wanted one in Germany. I do not say that everyone thinks like this. I have only described what was the situation here, what went through the media and press and that that was interpreted as a no-go here in Germany.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure that the people "demanding a Kalifat" won't be demonstrating on a women's march. O.o

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe, you misunderstood my comment:

Is it? We had many peaceful demonstrations. When it got problematic was when people on demonstrations shoutet that they wanted a kalifat (don’t know how to write the word) and “from the river …”, because Hamas and other people interpret it differently.

I did not state that the kalifat shouts happened during the protest you saw in that video. That was months ago. And it was not a protest for women at all. The participants were even separated by gender, if I remember correctly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

But I'm not arguing for obvious islamists. I'm arguing that every Palestinian protest (even those on women's march) are suspicious for the German state.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe because of what happened months ago with the kalifat stuff?

I'm honest with you... I haven't heard much about that kind of protest lately in Germany and don't have insider knowledge what parts of the state, the government or the 16 sub-governments might find suspicious or not.

Let's just agree that it'd be good for everyone, if the protesters managed (maybe, they already did, I don't know) eliminating the islamists out of their groups.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe because of what happened months ago with the kalifat stuff?

Nope, it's because of the "Staatsräson". Sudent protestors on German Unis most likely don't want anything to do with the kalifate.

Let's just agree that it'd be good for everyone, if the protesters managed (maybe, they already did, I don't know) eliminating the islamists out of their groups.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

that every Palestinian protest (even those on women's march) are suspicious for the German state.

When reading how the police described what happened there....

Something like that never happens at an average pride parade. Why does it happen during Palestine related protests? If you are the police and experience that, I can imagine them trying to be more prepared the next time and expect the worst-case, just in case....

Der Auslöser der gewaltsamen Szene fehlt im rund eine Minute langen Videoausschnitt, die Auseinandersetzung ist bereits im vollen Gange. Wie die Polizei am Sonntag mitteilte, griffen Teilnehmer:innen während der Demonstration die Einsatzkräfte wiederholt an.

Bereits kurz nach Beginn der Versammlung mit dem Titel "Internationaler feministischer Kampftag" seien israelfeindliche Sprechchöre angestimmt sowie strafbare und eindeutig polizeifendliche Parolen gerufen worden, teilte die Polizei mit. Die Einsätzkräfte hätten immer wieder tatverdächtige Personen festgenommen, daraufhin sei es zu versuchten Gefangenenbefreiungen und tätlichen Angriffen gekommen. "Die Polizeieinsatzkräfte wurden teilweise mit gezielten Faustschlägen, Tritten und Flaschenwürfen angegriffen und wendeten daraufhin wiederholt körperlichen Zwang an und setzten Reizstoffsprühgeräte gegen die Teilnehmenden ein", hieß es am Sonntag.

Bei einem Vorfall hatten Demonstrationsteilnehmende laut Polizei versucht, die Festnahme zweier Frauen zu verhindern, die mehrfach strafbare Parolen gerufen haben sollen. Die Polizei habe die Frauen daraufhin nach Absprache in eine Feuerwache in der Wiener Straße gebracht. Mehr als 100 Personen hätten versucht, in Richtung der Feuerwache zu gelangen und hätten die Einsatzkräfte "massiv körperlich bedrängt". Die Polizeibeamten hätten daraufhin "Zwangsmaßnahmen in Form von Schieben und Drücken" angewendet "sowie selektiv gezielte Faustschläge, Tritte und Pfefferspray" eingesetzt.

Insgesamt nahm die Polizei bei den Versammlungen am Samstag 12 Männer und 16 Frauen vorübergehend fest. Zudem wurden 33 Strafermittlungsverfahren unter anderem wegen besonders schweren Landfriedensbruchs, Gefangenenbefreiung, tätlichen Angriffs, Widerstands gegen Vollstreckungsbeamte und Verwendens von Kennzeichen verfassungswidriger und terroristischer Organisationen eingeleitet. Sieben Polizeibeamte seien verletzt worden, alle hätten im Dienst bleiben können.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're aware that the police is a biased participant in the conflict and you're not really arguing against my point, right?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Oh, but the protestor who uploaded a clip that did not show what happened before, is not biased??????

You only accepting the one side and one part of what happened there, makes you biased as well.

To be honest: I don't even know what your point is. Mine is: There is a bigger picture and we both haven't seen it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago

Never said the proetestors aren't biased. There's no such thing as an unbiased perspective. I just wanted to make sure that you know that a police report should not be treated as a "factual" report (or copying one should not be counted as "journalism", as a slight tangent).

My original point was this (you could have looked it up - it's not gone):

The German state is incredibly repressive against solidarity for Palestine.

How does the fact that the police admit that they arrest protestors for chanting slogans that criticize Israel refute my point in any way?