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[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 days ago (6 children)

If nobody is allowed to own more than one property, should everyone be forced buy? Where would renters get apartments from?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look into public housing in Finland.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am from Finland and public housing is shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Public housing was shit, maybe.

Or are all of the articles like this staged? And all of the data is made up?

Since its launch in 2008, the number of homeless people in Finland has decreased by roughly 30%,[1] though other reports indicate it could be up to 50%.[7] The number of long-term homeless people has fallen by more than 35%.[3] "Sleeping rough", the practice of sleeping outside, has been largely eradicated in Helsinki, where only one 50-bed night shelter remains.[3] Analysis of Housing First in Tampere, Finland found that it saved €250,000 in one year.[8] A further study of Finland's Housing First program found that giving a homeless person a home and support resulted in cost savings for the society of at least €15,000 per person per year, with potentially even higher cost savings in the long term.[7] These cost savings for society are in part a result of reductions in usage of emergency healthcare, police, and the justice system when homeless people are given a home.[9]

So they look like link 1, and they result in that... Seems great.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Giving homeless people homes != “public housing”

We do consider having a place to live a human right, but that doesn’t mean the houses are especially good or well maintained compared to commercial options.

They aren’t always even the cheapest - those can usually be found from private renters who own one or two apartments they rent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

We do consider having a place to live a human right, but that doesn’t mean the houses are especially good or well maintained compared to commercial options.

Ok, so I have your apparent anecdotal experience, vs. hundreds of articles citing a ton of data. I think I'm gonna go with the latter, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah, so the government is your landlord now?

It's good, because Americans have so much trust in their government right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good thing I'm not an American.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's handy sometimes, isn't it ;-)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually it's a fucking nightmare having your closest neighbour threaten your sovereignty on a daily basis.

It's even worse when half the population actually endorses the behaviour.

I don't hate Americans I'm just disappointed. I hope my children aren't going to die in a trench on the same field I farm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I'm sorry, yeah that must be awful.

It's even worse when half the population actually endorses the behaviour.

Are there a lot of Canadians who support it then?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Government-provided housing, social housing where your payments get you partial collective ownership, cheaper mortgages now that landlords aren't artificially inflating the rates?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

The government. They used to provide housing in the UK and then they stopped and stopped building new houses and now they’re unattainable for most.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah some people desire to be exploited! Send those kids back into the mines! /S

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Can you give me a serious answer without the /s

If I inherit my grandmas apartment, can I put it up for rent since it’s a small apartment in a college town and there will be takers.

Or should I sell it so I don’t become a “landlord”, which is bad?

Should all students just buy an apartment for the 4-5 years they spend in the city or will the city be the landlord for them somehow collectively? Or is it less bad if the college is the landlord by offering student housing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You could donate it? You could turn it into a shelter. You could let someone live there rent free... Why is selling the only option you can think of?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Rent free” so I’d pay the costs and someone could just be there for free? I can’t afford that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No... I specifically said "rent free" instead of "free"... You can charge them what it costs to upkeep with no profit, that's my point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

…so now being a landlord is ok if you don’t make too much profit?

I seriously can’t keep up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's really not hard. Basic shelter is a human right. Making a profit from providing someone with basic shelter is immoral and unethical.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

But is it profit if I’m asking over my expenses to save for a renovation for example?

How much over my expenses can I ask rent before becoming a bad guy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes landlords shouldn't exist. Colleges shouldn't exist either talk about a cash scam and purely for profit leaches, don't get me started on student athletes only a real scumbag would take a billion dollar industry and not pay the "workers".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not American.

Our colleges and universities are free. There is no student athlete industry over here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So if your taxes pay for education shouldn't they pay for basic housing? One of these is required for life, isn't this taught in university?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You didn’t answer my question:

If I inherit an apartment, am I allowed to rent it or should I sell it to not become a landlord?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What part of landlords should not exist did you not understand?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

So what should I do with the inherited apartment?

If I sell it to someone, they might become a landlord, which is bad.

Should I sell it to the city? Will they buy it?

Is it better if I gift it to my kid and keep it emtpty for 10 years until they need it? Then I’m not a landlord, because I don’t own multiple properties.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No rentals, houses will be gifted to everyone and magically conjured out of thin air.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Your sarcastic inability to see a different path does not mean a different path doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well, so far all of the "different paths" turned out to be completely crap at working. But surely the next time will do it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

...what different paths have been taken? Certainly not enacting a tax code that would make multiple unit ownership progressively unfeasible. That's just a start. Of course, that would take the electorate to actually be educated and informed in their voting and stop reelecting these geriatric ghouls on both sides of the aisle. To be fair (to be faaaiiiirr) I share a lot of your nihilism.