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[–] [email protected] 161 points 3 days ago (5 children)

As a homeowner I’m more convinced this is the quality of contractors these days. For triple pre-2020 prices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

We stealthed your keyboard thingy. No need to thank us.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And that’s the primary problem with the new triple contractor rates, House quality is going to severely decline in the next 10yrs as people try to do everything themselves because professional home repair has become grossly unaffordable.

I’ve been repairing and home owning for over 25 yrs. I make more money and can no longer easily afford home repair the last 3 yrs. As such, I shudder the think of what garbage is being done in homes with no capacity to afford the new higher rates right now. Even a box of construction screws and a can of paint is crazy expensive now.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

House quality is already in the shitter. Hell, not even the shitter, its down the pipe and in the septic tank.

and its not cause home owners doing repairs.

Its cause developers spinning up an LLC, buying a plot of land, shitting out a development of 300+ homes in less than 6 months that just barely meet the barest minimum of code (and anything that doesnt typically given a slide thanks to a few greased palms), just to sell all the homes in the mad housing rush before shutting down the LLC and walking away with all the money and no liability on the terrible houses they've built that arent suitable for living in.

CyFy on youtube highlights the problem a lot (and how hard the builders and bribed inspectors go after him for threatening the grift).

And I have own personal experience witnessing more well off friends struggle with newly bought houses being built like shit at best, to needing 10s, to 100s of thousands of dollars in repairs less than a year after purchase at worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

LLCs are licensed. As such, the owner(s) is on public record which means you track this on a .gov site. Some of these guys, as in a single real estate guy, will have a page or two of the LLC flips including land purchases fof $10 between their own LLCs.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

This is why I end up doing so much DIY.

A job that takes a professional half a day could take me a whole weekend.
But having to play "how likely are they to fuck it up, and how much of a pain will it be to fix" drives me up the wall so much, I often just buy the tool and do it myself.

My time to do it: 15 hours, plus £200 in materials.
Cheap tradesman: 8 hours, £450 total, non-zero chance I'll have to rip it out and re-do it myself anyway.
Specialist tradesman : 5 hours, £900-1200 total.

So it either ends up being lots of work, a gamble, or lots of money. Quick, good, cheap, pick two!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

This is also why I own 2 shitbox cars.

I'm a good amateur mechanic. But I cant guarantee I wont order the wrong part, be sent the wrong part, have misdiagnosed the problem, the job turns out to be a nightmare etc... So as long as the other one is running, I have time and ability to sort it out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

This pretty much sums up my view of contractors. I know enough about home improvement these days, after years of DIY, I could probably get a job as a subcontractor.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Combination, right.

Landlord wants the job done fast, meanwhile the contractors know that the landlord isn't the one actually living there so they can get away with cutting corners.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

...and not cutting in corners!

Sorry.

[–] Reverendender 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This actually took more effort!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Reverendender 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They could have just not painted it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This painting wasn't done carefully with a brush or roller, it was done by spraying with a jet of paint.

It took them no time at all to paint this, because they just blasted it at the same time they were doing the rest of the wall, without even caring it was there.

What would have taken time would be to try and carefully spray around without getting any paint on it (or the proper solution, to remove it from the wall before painting)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its done by some random dude that the landlord found in a HomeDepot Parking Lot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Oh how I wish that were a given.