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Crossbow killer Kyle Clifford was 'fuelled' by Andrew Tate videos before rape and murders, court told (www.lbc.co.uk)

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Clifford was found guilty of raping his ex-partner Louise before murdering her and her family at Cambridge Crown Court on Thursday.

The 26-year-old former soldier became "enraged" when his Louise ended their 18-month relationship - which led to him plotting the "carefully planned and executed" killings on July 9 last year.

Clifford gained access to the family home by deceiving 61-year-old Carol Hunt, the wife of BBC racing commentator John Hunt, before stabbing her to death in a "brutal knife attack".

After killing Mrs Hunt, the defendant then "lay in wait" for an hour for Louise to enter the house, before restraining, raping and ultimately murdering her with a crossbow.

He then fatally shot 28-year-old Hannah Hunt when she returned to the property in the quiet cul-de-sac of Ashlyn Close in Bushey, Hertfordshire, after work.

Less than 24 hours before the murders, Clifford had searched for Andrew Tate's podcast, with prosecutor Alison Morgan KC telling the court: "It's misogynistic, trying to control Louise Hunt in the context of a final act of spite. You can see how the mind was working."

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was listening to the report on Radio 4 - the murders were heart-breaking enough but throwing Andrew Tate into the mix made me want to cry. It just feels like all the (albeit limited) progress that we've made over the last few decades is slipping between out fingers like sand and I am worried for the young generation of boys growing up with this constantly in the background, as well as the young women who have to navigate that minefield. Hopefully, this will help to underline quite how corrosive this kind of thing is but I don't know how you push back against it effectively, although the Men's Lib movement might be part of it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd be okay with banning social media at this point. It's been weaponised by our enemies and it's only going to get worse now that the US has been taken by Nazis and Russians.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I'd be fine with smaller forums run by nerds on their own servers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah ultimately the reason misogyny needs to be taken so seriously is shit like this and the overturn of women's rights in some countries.

That said, misogynistic violence is not new and it hasn't been dormant. You have incidents like the shit what's his name, the incel with a crush on his sister who shot a bunch of people in California like a decade ago and you can draw a clear line from the École Polytechnique massacre through it to here with many other stops along the way.

Tate is telling boys and young men that they aren't real men unless they feel entitled to women and act on it. Incels had similar entitlement leading to Jordan Peterson's "enforced monogamy" stance.