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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Everyone should be hosting a server" was NOT my point, sorry if I got misunderstood. My mother could in no way host an XMPP server on her own - but I could register her an account on mine.

Rather, I meant: a) if you can host it, suggest your friends and family to use your server; b) if you can't - that is still better: with multiple public servers available, there is no single point of failure, you can choose a server in whatever jurisdiction you want, or even an onion/i2p one.

[–] brrt -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sorry for being harsh at the end. I just see this notion too often.

But still, your option b) is not self hosted. Maybe a better word to use would be decentralized then?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Selfhost able. But yeah, "decentralized" would be indeed a more fitting term.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's just pedantry. 'Selfhosted' never meant that every single user has to host it themselves.

[–] brrt 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s not pedantry, it’s using the right terminology.

And yes, self hosted means hosted by yourself. It’s in the name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hosting_(web_services)

The promise of self hosting is that you own your data which may be better for privacy/security if you know what you are doing. The same doesn’t apply if you have to trust a third party, even if it is a friend/family member who provides you with a service they host. They become a service provider to you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

self hosted means hosted by yourself

A lot of selfhosters share with family. I'm not gonna make my wife spin up her own servers when she can use mine.

[–] brrt 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And what would you call your wife in this scenario? A selfhoster? Or a user of a service hosted by boonhet?

She’s not using a selfhosted service, she’s using a boonhet-hosted service. Because she has no control over the service or her data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

That's just being overly pedantic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

That's called 'peer-to-peer', not 'hosting'.