this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2023
237 points (95.8% liked)

196

16574 readers
1848 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think most of us start with the assumption that they'll never give up their stranglehold willingly, and move on to more practical solutions.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They need to make the choice: pay a lot more taxes, or take the second option. I'm not threatening violence, but as our society gets more desperate the targets on their backs get larger.

There are 756 billionaires in the US and 330 million of us. Once that becomes clear to people things might change, one way or the other. All other "culture wars" are noise generated to distract from this one.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Shameless displays of excess wealth is increasingly being met with more and more cultural hostility, especially amongst younger people. Gen Zers are highly likely to view people who flaunt their wealth or indulge heavily in luxury goods as being tacky or just generally negatively. The hostility as the climate crisis increases will only increase as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Former tax professional here. The problem is that the billionaires aren't really billionaires. Elon Musk does not have a quarter trillion dollars in his bank account. His net worth is calculated from what other people think his holdings are worth. He cannot be taxed on this.

Unless someone is game enough to pass legislation enabling taxation of "unrealised gains" (while not allowing credits/offsets for unrealised losses), billionaires will continue not paying their fair share of tax.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

what other pressure do you have the ability to put on a billionaire that they wouldn't find utterly laughable, if they even noticed it? but you can't buy your way out of death. sure, if the threat to their lives were to become credible, they could leverage their wealth to protect against it, but being surrounded by bodyguards at all times, having every rooftop surveyed for snipers before you go out to get coffee - these are things that disrupt their overly-cruisy existences. and the more people there are gunning for them, figuratively or literally, the worse their lives get.

and sure, if you off them, their wealth will just default to someone else. but if billionaires start dying left and right, their inheritants might just start to find ways to make sure their fortune stays a little shy of that magical 9-digit mark.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the teenager equivalent of telling Santa you want a pony

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Who is Santa in this analogy? And why is a teenager talking to Santa? I'm lost.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

@Aesthesiaphilia @Narrrz @moosetwin @Track_Shovel holy shit like half of ur post history is "hAha TeEnAgErS LoL"