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Yep starting at less than $12,000 US in China, I can’t imagine a sub-20K MSRP would be entirely out of the question

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Big, ugly, crap range. GM just doesn't get it anymore. Make an electric car that's not an ugly piece of crap and they might sell some.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

220 miles of range is plenty for a commuter car for a family with a 2nd car with more range. Not everything needs to be a 1 car solution.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I bet in the winter in the upper midwest that range drops to like 110 miles.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I have a Chevy Bolt with identical range and can confirm that range is halved in Winter. Still no big deal in urban areas. My 1-hour commute to the other side of the city is only 8 miles. I just charge the car every-other week for an hour. Ezpz.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago

From what I'm reading the Chevy bolt does not have a heat pump and it seems that most of your commute is just standing still in traffic.

In these conditions it makes sense that range goes down in winter but for longer drive with a more recent EV it's not really an issue anymore.

I barely noticed any difference in range in winter compared to summer with my EV. I have to admit though that winters are quite mild here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

8 miles in one hour? At that point you could almost bike if it wasn't freezing. You could bike at a steady 10mph, though it would take nearly an hour.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Sadly there is absolutely no safe way to bike from my home to my work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 19 hours ago

Rated range, meaning 100%-0% in near-ideal conditions, drops significantly in the winter. Battery conditioning and a cold start can drop it by 35% if it's using resistive heat (as opposed to a heat pump), plus reserve capacity on both sides (you don't usually want to go below 20% or above 80%, to maintain battery health).

I recommend people take the listed rating and cut it in half for real world use in bad conditions. For instance, if you need to travel somewhere that's 75 miles away (150 round trip) in the middle of winter without charging, then you need a battery rated for 300 miles. You can obviously get by with less if charging along the way is viable, and these are just estimates. If your route is 80 mph, it will suck down a lot more juice than the same distance at 55.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It's ugly and high, but not big:

Length 3,381 mm (133.1 in)
Width 1,685 mm (66.3 in)
Height 1,721 mm (67.8 in)
Kerb weight 1,006 kg (2,218 lb).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Man, that curb weight seems completely off for that tall of a vehicle. If it's true, than sure it's just tall and ugly and not that heavy. Sport Utility Vehicles that aren't sporty, don't have much utility should just be cars. Tall vehicles objectively drive worse, and are less safe for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

How is the weight so low¿? It is not small enough to be just a ton

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Because cars made for the US have tons of extra stuff and weight for safety and cars made for other countties don't have to have it.