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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (27 children)

I work in Seattle and live near it.

Our EC votes here in WA went for the Harris. I told everyone who would listen offline and online in this state and in other states why we shouldn't vote for Trump.

I am working or commuting to work 60 hours a week and we are losing our health insurance. I'm already scrambling. If I showed up in a city which 60%+ of the pop agrees with me and held a sign for a few hours it wouldn't change a goddamn thing except get some honks and nods for sympathetic folks who also feel this way.

More than the probably unactionable threat of invading Canada I'm worried about the following in no particular order of importance.

  • Not being able to get meds for my sick wife

  • Health care collapsing in America

  • Our economy collapsing

  • A trade war with our neighbors and allies you know folks like Canada

  • People going hungry here

  • People dying of hunger overseas without the aid we used to provide

  • Vaccination and public health collapsing followed by potentially worse threats than covid like a deadly flu pandemic if the bird flu adapts to us well enough to explode without adapting enough to avoid massive fatalities. Note there is no reason to believe this would leave other countries unscathed

  • Ukraine being ground under Putin's toes because they won't give it and allies like us abandon them with millions dying and tens of millions living under occupation

  • Almost 2M of which half are children in Gaza being murdered in the course of driving them from their homes

  • Trump allowing Putin's aggression to get way out of hand and then trying to play savior thus kick starting WW3

  • A nuclear apocalypse

  • Climate change being impossible to reverse because we are so far behind that it doesn't matter what we do if we decide to make changes 20 years from now instead of today. Also factors that seem to suggest this may get much worse much faster than earlier thought like the amount of CO2 sequestered dropping off or the Clathrate gun hypothesis

  • Mirror life being way to attractive to stupid people as bio weapons to stupid people despite a host of scientists coming out against even peaceful research in that direction

  • Taiwan going to war with China and chip production dealing a further blow to the economy since it will take literal years for us to replace Taiwan for complex chips

  • Not being able to vote Trump out of power in 2026 2028 because they don't let us

  • Trump rounding up millions of people into migrant camps but not being able to deport them very quickly leading to multi year detention of immigrants in hostile concentration camps that ultimately become death camps

Literally every issue here is more likely than us invading Canada. It's not that I don't care about Canada. It's not that I don't emphatically disagree with Canada's treatment. I just can't do a goddamn thing.

[–] Voroxpete 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (18 children)

No one in Canada is asking to be your number one priority.

We just want you to get angry and do something about all of the problems being brought about the fascist dictator your country elected, instead of sitting around and wringing your hands about it.

If you guys can reign in Trump then Canada will be fine. But if you don't then we're all fucked, north and south of the border.

The difference is, you're the ones in a position to stop him. We're not.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This.
I'm not mad about USAmericans not standing up for Canada specifically.
I'm fucking mad at them for not standing up against literally anything else.
That they don't care to defend Canada is whatever, but they don't even care enough to defend themselves.

Forget about Canada, just stand up for your own fucking selves and we'll be fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's unfortunately by design. The country is way too big for itself. The oligarchs want to keep everyone fighting for their own survival so they can't fight back. They are more scared of unity than Nazis. The government also has access to the world's largest military and is eager to sic them on their own civilians. Canadians and Americans are both equally afraid of our military, just look at our cops. Not to mention every time we go out we have to worry about getting randomly shot by a disgruntled 14 year old at Walmart.

There's a large underground resistance, but there's only so much we can do. The US is a failed nation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

There's a large underground resistance, but there's only so much we can do.

It needs to get larger and push harder.

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