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[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

1912 - Invasion of Nicaragua

So you think little shit like that is why we are the most successful country in the world? Europeans did way more interventions/colonizations. How come they aren't more successful if that is the reason?

in the cold war. From which America massively profitted.

We did? Because I am still waiting to get back our $13 billion plus interest we spent just at the very beginning. This article says the money that Americans gave away "was a key factor in reviving their economies and stabilizing their political structures" of other countries.

https://www.britannica.com/summary/Marshall-Plan

[Marshall Plan, (1948–51) U.S.-sponsored program to provide economic aid to European countries after World War II. The idea of a European self-help plan financed by the U.S. was proposed by George Marshall in 1947 and was authorized by Congress as the European Recovery Program. It provided almost $13 billion in grants and loans to 17 countries and was a key factor in reviving their economies and stabilizing their political structures]

Half a million people die, the US had knowledge of this

The entire world had knowledge of that stuff. How come you think the entire rest of the world is totally helpless and only the mighty USA can do anything to help other countries with their internal problems? Is it because the USA is the most successful country in the world? We both know that is exactly the reason why you are thinking the US is responsible for every single thing that happens in the entire world.

1959 - Nam. You know about it.

Nope. I know about Korea in the 1950's and how the USA saved South Korea from the North Korean dictatorship. And I know about how in the 1960's the USA tried to repeat that in Vietnam. Would you rather live in South or North Korea? Your welcome.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago
  1. Little shit? Incidents like Nicaragua led to America dominating both North and South America. I wouldnt call the invasion of other countries to boost ones economy little shit. Why isnt Europe more successful? Hm, maybe, just maybe, they were, before World War One. You know, when they did all of that shit while projecting their power across the World. But then two massive wars disrupted the entire continent. And while most countries in Europe were affected by these wars, America profitted. Massively. WW2 literally ended the great depression.

  2. Yes you did. Why do you think western Europe aligned with the US after the war? Why do you think the Marshall Plan was even enacted? Because you guys just really really liked democracy so much? No, the Marshall Plan secured Allies in Europe and fixed the economy of US-Trade partners. It also stopped european countries from going red and is probably the last time an american intervention led to conditions improving.

  3. You kindly left out the part where the US explicitly encouraged these killings and financed the upcoming dictatorship that was led by the very same perpetrators.

  4. South Korea, at that point, was also a dictatorship. But okay, thank you for "selflessly" saving South Korea. That should you a free pass to install dictatorships in Iran, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Guatemala and so on.

Face it. None of these invasions where ultimatively done becuase the "Constitution set up the americans to stand up for the free world" or something. All of this is about projecting power. Every sucessful invasion led to an advance of US business interest. And that's what makes you, for the moment, the most dominant power in the world.

I am not saying that all americans are evil or some shit. Or that id rather have another world power (maybe after you elected Trump i preferred you would not have this power). I am glad you liberated us from the Nazis. Shame tho, that you can't do that for yourself right now.

But to claim that all of this happened because of your constitution is nonsense. To claim, that the US only became imperialist after Trump's victory is nonsense. To claim that America did not profit from propping up friendly governments, all over the world but especially in Europe, is nonsense.