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How Diablo hackers uncovered a speedrun scandal (arstechnica.com)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I've read this yesterday, and it's kinda weird.

The community says they've debunked his cheating and needed months to do so, going through every possible seed to determine that the dungeon in the video doesn't exist and the very important and early item drop is not naturally possible.

But the video description reads weird, it stated that a) it's a spliced run and b) he manipulated the item to drop as early as possible.

...done in 27 segments appended to one file...

...cut down the time almost in half and it's due to even more luck manipulation...

...The most important thing is that I manipulated Naj's Puzzler to drop from the earliest monster possible...

Note that I took these from an archived shot of the video in 2014.

[–] mindbleach 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's not what "spliced" and "manipulation" mean.

A spliced run could play each floor a dozen times and continue from the best outcome. This video jump-cuts to a completely different dungeon.

Luck manipulation means doing weird shit so you can predict a random number. This video straight-up cheats for numbers the game would never roll.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Huh, thanks for clearing that up.

So what exactly is the implication of that description, that the run was made with a fixed seed and maybe multiple tries for some of the levels, but on the same seed?

Isn't it then extremely suspicious, that it's not stated what seed was being used / how it was fixed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Do you have a link to the archived screenshot?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20140314230825/www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW8XorD9RwI

I took the quotes from the HTML file, though, because the drop-down didn't work. The description is the same as today.