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[–] [email protected] 436 points 2 months ago (5 children)

DEI is bad! Treat everyone based on their merits! Remove the bio pages for anyone not white and male!

... ?

[–] [email protected] 208 points 2 months ago

Diversity, equity, and inclusion get in the way of their nepotism and cronyism hiring. If they were hiring based on merit alone there would be no problem being transparent and publishing their hiring decisions.

[–] [email protected] 139 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

It’s been said better by other people but the general understanding of the right’s use of “DEI” is as a convenient blanket slur.

It’s typically used against Black and Hispanic people the most, followed by trans people, but any/all women are convenient extra padding under the bus tires of their bigotry and insecurity.

Remember that their fascism is based in feelings of superiority in addition to fear. Use that against the cowardly bastards. They can’t stand to see someone “undeserving” do as well as or better than them, so they try to mow it down.

Fuck ‘em.

EDIT: It seems like Rose Ferreira is of Hispanic descent, hailing initially from the Dominican Republic then moved to NY and eventually secured an internship at NASA, and is now an astronomer and aerospace engineer. It seems like her NASA page got reinstated, maybe after backlash. She’s awesome. Hell yeah for the Streisand effect.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh absolutely. Anyone who rails against "DEI" is by definition a white supremacist.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not necessarily. They might be a misogynist, a militant christian or some other form of bigot as well. That's the beauty of it, you can be "against DEI" as well as a woman or someone with more melanin than the "default" and you get to imagine they don't hate you, just all those other people.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just because you're not white doesn't mean you can't be a white supremacist.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

just like women can be enforcers of patriarchy, and the poor engines of capitalism

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Wonder what ol' Dooky Chute is up to these days.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Also just fucking stupid ignorant assholes who know absolutely nothing other than the TV and their pastor and their radio tell them everyday that DEI is bad.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who rails against “DEI” is by definition a white supremacist.

This is such a backwards take. "DEI" could always only end in misery, because it pulls people ahead of the line in a time when the working people are already having a hard time. "Is that person hired because of the colour of their skin or the sex of their body, or have they been hired because they're actually good?". It could only make a large part of the population feeling left behind because of their sex or race. What do you think that does to the social foundation of a nation?

Alas, I have no idea what a good alternative would be, but I always recognized "DEI" as a bad idea. I don't have to be a chef to be able to tell that this dish tastes like ass, even if I can't cook for shit myself.

That does not make me (or anyone else who thinks DEI is ass) a white supremacist "by definition".

At the end of the day, it's the ultrarich hoarding all the money that's the actual issue - an economy that's not fair to the citizens of the nation. The top 3 wealthiest persons in the USA have the same amount of money as the bottom 50%.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Careful now thats a nuanced opinion that doesn't stroke my victim complex or reductively imply anyone who disagrees with me on complex systemic social issues is a nazi supremacist.

Prepare to be downvoted and hit with five paragraph essay replies picking apart everything you just said. You racist, mysoginistic, hateful, privileged, homophobic, transphobic, double checks progressive slurs & insults 101 field guide uhh third Reich bringing supremacist scum.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

As I keep telling people, they keep saying "DEI" because even most Bible belt folks get uncomfortable when you drop the hard R they really want to say.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

They can’t stand to see someone “undeserving” do as well as or better than them, so they try to mow it down.

in australia and new zealand we have a concept called “tall poppy syndrome” (people who stand out from the crowd, who promote themselves excessively and publicly) and the reaction to that: “cutting down the tall poppy”. cutting down the tall poppy originally meant just bringing them back down to earth, but kinda morphed into simply criticising anyone that does well

we tend to have a relatively strong egalitarian streak, and perhaps that change was tearing people down rather than distributing their success to equalise

anyway, related: tearing down the tall poppy, ie pulling down anyone that stands out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Remember that their fascism is based in feelings of superiority in addition to fear.

Hi, it's me, I'm the "well akshuslly" guy today. Fascism (and the whole right-wing mindset) is based on fear, primarily fear that they, personally and individually, are interior. That's why they need the constant and over-the-top demonstrations of dominance and claims of superiority—to drown out those fears.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I appreciate where you’re coming from. I said it the way I did because for some, at least from my observation, there is a sick sadism to it rather than fear alone.

Academic definitions would agree with you and it does hold true for the general populace; however I wanted to add the caveat so as not to mistakenly give the impression that fascists should be pitied, in any capacity.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The current admin cabinet hires are completely based on DEI. What other companies would hire such a diverse cadre of alcoholics, rapists, and idiots, while most companies tend to hire on merit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I like to think these ones self select.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Women and visible minorities are often given the absolute worst conditions for getting out of the shit cycle started by white dudes. This can mean that they don’t have great scores on tests and stuff and that can look like they are, by default, not as smart if you’re the kind of person whose brain is barely firing enough to allow you to breathe.

So you extend that out and suddenly it’s “wait if they get hired at all and they’re not as smart that means they don’t deserve it!”. DEI does, I’m sure, bring some people in that might not be the best candidates but it never brings in people who are unqualified for the job like the racists believe, and the even the metric for “best” on paper is clouded by the aforementioned lack of support.

They’re connected because these people believe that there’s no way a straight white male would ever lose to a minority or a woman despite the fact that most of the people who believe it are huge losers barely stumbling through life while ignoring the fact that they are supported by everyone else.

I’m a straight, white dude whose parents can financially support me when I need it shit’s hard enough as-is. To act like I don’t have serious privilege and like so many people don’t have it even worse than me…god I can’t even fathom that level of self-centered egotism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If someone hired someone provably less qualified that would be easy grounds for a discrimination lawsuit. The problem is actually usually the opposite. People from disadvantaged groups often have to work way harder and be way more qualified just to be treated equally in society.

DEI isn't about who we hire and fire specifically but about how we as a society of institutions act overall. People in DEI might review the hiring and firing practices more holistically as one part of their job. Possibly focusing on recruiting practices including all communities (who are you advertising the job to?), job descriptions being simplified and more honest to what is actually required (broadening who qualifies), training hiring and firing authorities about unconscious bias, etc. That enables them to follow the eeoc laws and truly hire people that are most qualified while having a more representative candidate pool, resulting in a more representative group of employees. When you're correcting your hiring practices to be more equitable, you don't need to hire people less qualified.

DEI would also be how they are treated once there, how the organization treats their staff in a fair and equitable manner. How current policies and processes can be changed to remove structural bias. How to best utilize a broad range of perspectives to improve your organization. For business often how you can include a broader range of targets to market to, etc. Analyzing the structure as a whole for institutional bias. That's all DEI.

The right has perverted the concept of DEI to make people believe unqualified people are landing positions when that's not what DEI is even there for.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I think the justification for things like this is that they don't feel like they got there on their merits in the first place