this post was submitted on 13 Feb 2025
1015 points (95.4% liked)

linuxmemes

22705 readers
1207 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack users for any reason. This includes using blanket terms, like "every user of thing".
  • Don't get baited into back-and-forth insults. We are not animals.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves/tolerates/hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  • 5. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Language/язык/Sprache
  • This is primarily an English-speaking community. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
  • Comments written in other languages are allowed.
  • The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
  • Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
  • Β 

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.

    founded 2 years ago
    MODERATORS
    1015
    submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
     
    you are viewing a single comment's thread
    view the rest of the comments
    [–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    It certainly sounds like wayland is just about ripe. Any DE recommendations for a lifelong XFCE enjoyer like myself?

    [–] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    KDE. It's working very well with Wayland. I've been using both on my daily driver for a year now and it's come a long way since then. It was still a bit rough in the beginning but now I can't see myself going back. It's pretty polished.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

    I've been using KDE Plasma with Wayland for a couple of months and it's been really good. The apps that don't support it properly open as an X11 window inside Wayland, which is perfectly fine. I'm not switching back to X11 either haha

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I'm not a Linux noob, but I've been out of the scene for a few years.

    Recently tried debian with KDE and Wayland on a modern PC with a 3060. Just a default install.

    My mouse could barely track across the screen, it was very choppy and stuttered like crazy.

    This was in the last 6 months. I got it fixed by switching to a different compositor, but I shouldn't have had to do that. Even then I found YouTube to be super laggy.

    It's just not ready.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    well it's again more about nvidia driver for wayland u need manually do some tweaks such as https://github.com/CachyOS/CachyOS-Settings/blob/master/usr/lib/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I'm glad there are ways to get it working, and thank you for sharing it, but this doesn't qualify as "it just works, why are you idiots not switching from Windows when Linux just works".

    This is directly why a lot of people don't take the arguments that Linux is ready for the average user seriously.

    [–] WhyJiffie 1 points 2 days ago

    opensuse leap has those settings by default. and people say it's not beginner friendly..

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

    Yea like I said I'm not a total noob. I have built my own Linux From Scratch distro which is something I think most of the users on here would struggle with. All I'm saying is that it's not a totally smooth and hiccup free experience for normal people. I'm a grown man now and sometimes I just want shit to work cause I only have like an hour to game in the evening.

    I will try Linux again for my daily driver once Win10 support is gone but I will likely try something other than Debian as others have suggested. Something more gaming centric.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

    I had the exact same experience with Debian. The thing is, Debian is so many versions behind, it's really no surprise that you thought it wasn't ready yet. Try a less "stable" distro, you'll be surprised.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    i am a Linux noob. i installed debian KDE wayland with an Nvidia card just like you.

    i experienced similar issues. i couldn't set my refresh rate above 60Hz, my screen was really dim and stuttering, and video playback was lagging. worst of all my Minecraft framerate was abysmal! (<20fps default settings)

    i read the dang wiki and got everything running smoothly in an afternoon

    it's ready as fuck

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

    Yes I'm also capable of reading the wiki but it did nothing to help me.

    My point stands that it's not "ready" for the average person. This is a Linux community of course people here know how to troubleshoot and get shit working.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

    i read the dang wiki and got everything running smoothly in an afternoon

    that means it's not ready...

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Xfce next major release will have Wayland support so no need to even change!

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

    Best news I've heard all year

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

    I'm jumping on the kde train. The experience has been solid since plasma 6 and the Wayland jump last year, especially if you are already stuck in the Nvidia family.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

    Cinamon should be supporting it soon