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Totally insufficient for my use-case.
I commute 65 miles each way for work. Assuming a 50% range loss during the winter months, I'd need at least 195 miles of range at the barest possible minimum. I'd prefer at least 50 miles of buffer to account for any errands I might need to run in addition to the commute, that's 245 miles.
50% of heat loss in winter? Do you live in the middle of Siberia?
Close enough, I live in the mountains where it regularly gets down into the negative teens Fahrenheit for a few weeks in winter.
Yeah, OK, then your point stands. In Germany the coldest winter nights we get are about -10 degrees Celsius, and at that temperature I get less than 20% range loss, but that's partly due to the lower speeds you naturally drive on slippery winter roads. In your conditions 50% range loss might actually be realistic since heat pumps drastically lose efficiency that far below freezing
This is a fading way of life, not progress.
Less travel, more energy, more time, less carbon output.
Great. Mandate WFH and build public transit then. Until that's done, we need cars.
You're preaching to the choir, but until I can find a full-remote job that pays the bills I'm stuck with this.
Oh sure, most of us are trapped in a regressive energy waste cycle, but the article’s statement is about optimizing a slightly less wasteful form of transport, and that range acknowledges the requirement that we stop all the excessive travel in order to progress.
FWIW I have a short range BEV but living rurally means keeping a second gas car around. The vast majority of our trips are well within range, though. Commute to town is only seven kilometres and range is only 130km. If we had lots of money and two EV’s I would still have one be short range.
I'm seeing a future where the EVs in our driveway play a much more important part of our home electricity storage. Depending on the scenario, two EVs with large-ish batteries may be more advantageous. I'll admit the stars would have to align for this, but its a possible future.