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Auction: https://www.sav.com/auctions/details/7073489/hexbear.net

Not sure what will happen, but seems to be a Fediverselore event for sure

Update: post from hexbear admin on chapo.chat: https://chapo.chat/post/4468531

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except they already said that the same issue will occur with the backup name as well. Unless the additional time allows the original owner to finally reregister it this time, as they (reportedly) claimed to be ready to do for the main one as well. I think they don't trust them anymore:-).

So everyone might move, then have to move again a second time. Not joking btw!:-)

Is it weird that I feel bad for them? Whoever is to blame, a lot of the users are innocent of this. And are also trolls, true, but even so... It would be nice if some people would learn from this that online trolling is one thing, but eventually it's even better to wake up and live in the real world. I want that for them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think that the additional time will be enough to let them contact the original owner. But dunno, there might be some drama involved, IIRC not even the original devs want much to do with HB.

And even if they move twice, the userbase seems close-knit enough to follow without too many losses.

Is it weird that I feel bad for them?

I don't think it is. The main problem there seems to be users going rogue outside their home instance; I remember HB had some rule like "respect rules of the other instances you interact with", but it was toilet paper. However plenty of the other users are completely OK.

Another issue is that there is some red scare against them. And even if they use it to shield themselves from actual criticism in a really dumb way, the red scare is still there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They openly idolize Stalin. That's not from a couple rogue users

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The guy who spent his youth robbing banks to fund a revolution, succeeded, went on to beat the nazis, and helped lay the foundation for the greatest increase in standards of living in the modern age outside of China?

Even if you accept legitimate criticisms about the guy, such as interning/relocating populations in the wake of WWII, various loses the CPC took due to following his mandates, his failure to support Korea, etc, and understand him as a part of a greater machine accomplishing these things rather than the idealist "great man theory" nonsense that encourages hero worship in the first place, it's hard not to idealize revolutionary heros like him and Fidel.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of Hitler or anything

I just really really hate the guy who beat him

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Stalin was a fine with Hitler. Helped Hitler invade Poland. Killing some of my family. Then massacring ethnic polish at home, killing more family. Stalin only turned against Hitler after Hitler crossed him. That the Soviet Union helped defeat Hitler was fine. But doesn't excuse allying with him first. Or the Soviet genocides and oppression.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

Deep down I want to know if you're lying deliberately because you're a nazi or if you're just a particularly stupid person.

Hitler had a book. In it he said what he wanted to do. The leadership of the Soviet Union read this book. They did not think they were friends with Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it. Then disappeared (yet again, after repeatedly having done so in the past so many times before). It's even possible that they did this out of some kind of spite? But perhaps not, maybe it's merely irresponsibility, and even that due to ADHD or some such, who knows (I did not read through every comment, just enough to know this much).

It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I'm leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it's 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now) there are posts (not merely moderator reports, which don't federate particularly with their older software) where they are made aware, and the admins chose to ignore the situation each time rather than ban the person involved. They actively shielded them from consequences, rather than merely allowing them to do whatever. Thus necessitating others to take steps of their own to deal with matters.

Seeing how "responsible" they are, nobody believes the red scare issue - especially people who are ACTUALLY leftist as opposed to whatever fucked up thing tankies are to begin with, and then like that squared (three times over) and possibly reversed and shifted further into the imaginary dimension, to describe whatever the heck Hexbear has going on specifically. Regardless of political views. imho at least, ofc:-).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

They did contact the original owner - who promised (reputedly) to take care of it.

That's important info.

Perhaps the original owner is so disengaged already that they aren't giving too much of a fuck about the fate of the instance. I can't exactly blame them.

It is not merely users going rouge (edit: no you know what, fuck it, I’m leaving this spelling exactly as it is, bc it’s 2025 baby! and this apparently is how we roll now)

Stop making me remember a certain movie! Okay, the movie is great, so keep reminding me of it. (Moulin Rouge. Their version of Roxanne is way better than The Police's original. Kind of like Concrete Blonde's Everybody Knows vs. Cohen's)

But I digress. Yes, the users were going rouge :-P under the implicit approval of the instance admins; that's why I say that the rule there against misbehaving in other instances was "toilet paper", it's just there to get shit.

Seeing how “responsible” they are, nobody believes the red scare issue

Yup. It's like the boy who cried wolf, isn't it?


Anyway, I hope that the good ones still stick around. And even the bad ones should get a place... just away from my sight. (Perhaps in truth social, showing their "critical support" to Trump. Hehe.)