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In the Netherlands the police have a network where people can add their home doorbell spy devices.
It's horrid and there's an extreme amount of privacy issues.
So yes, please continue the fight against excessive surveillance.
is it a "can" or a "must"? I don't mind if it's optional but yea it defo shouldn't be required
It's optional yes. But they manipulate you with the default scare tactics into registering.
How sweet would it be if cops did their job though. Like if they actually used the images to arrest the guy breaking into people's cars at night.
But if they can access it they can gain control of it and delete it after they rob your car lol
After the cops steal my car?
Rob
Just the other day, I read an article about how much cases they are able to solve because of the footage. That is a good thing in my opinion.
The police also will ask for the footage, but you don't have to give it. It's entirely up to you if you want to do so.
Even so, I prefer not to be filmed at random by people's door bells, thank you very much.
Yes, there's always some sort of justification towards authoritarianism. The real solution is to fix underlying issues instead. For example, if there is a lot of theft, your social safety net has failed. Punishing people because they react to a problem without fixing the problem is how surveillance- and police states come to be.
We should therefor not fall into spy cameras following our every move. We have to fight them now while they are not too normalized yet. Otherwise, even if underlying problems are fixed, they will still be there, and might get used for far more sinister reasons.
Some good things to understand are the Boiling Frog Syndrome and Ratchet Effect.
But also these cameras also solve a problem much faster and just seems like common sense whereas trying to fix some abstract core Zeitgeist that may or may not solve the issue isnt much to sink our teeth into. It's like someone asking you to fix their toilet and you're like "well what is a toilet and maybe the issue is you don't earn enough money to pay a plumber" like great, you're right in one regard, but the toilet is broken and you could fix it
Nice banalization.
It would look more like putting a camera in your toilet because "one should be scared of poop diseases", but then add your toilet cam to a database that every doctor can use to find toilet cams.
How would a Cam do that?
Maybe like a health department that collects samples at treatment plants to identify the spread of disease. It's an invasion of privacy. But also doesn't mean it's not a benefit to it.
Authoritarianism is easily justified. Yet never a good solution.