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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

humans are the most co-operative and empathetic species on the face of the earth. What ruined those systems were hierarchies of power.

[–] earphone843 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Humans have the capacity to be that, but all you have to do is look at the entirety of human history to know that we're not really like that. It's a nice lie that we tell ourselves.

Hierarchies of power are an integral part of human nature and always have been. Any society that centers around empathy and cooperation will eventually be corrupted by those who only seek personal gain, and the masses will follow them.

One thing people forget is that right now is one of the most peaceful times in human history, and it's still a shit show of war and misery with large sections of the population actively working on making things worse

The duality of man is our species's Great Filter.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

, but all you have to do is look at the entirety of human history to know that we're not really like that.

Written history is not the whole of human history. We have plenty of evidence that absent hierarchies, humans do cooperate naturally. All we need to do is get rid of capitalism and the state.

Hierarchies of power are an integral part of human nature and always have been.

Absolutely not. One just has to look at pre-farming societies to see the lie in that.

[–] earphone843 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're talking about tens thousand plus of years ago and people we only have fragmets of information about, right?

Humans definitely aren't the only animals who have power hierarchies, so it's silly to assume they just spontaneously came into being when we invented writing.

Humans are greedy selfish animals, and the ones who are truly altruistic are outliers. You seem to forget that humans are the source of all of the pain and suffering that capitalism and such cause.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our closest genetic neighbours, the bonobos, have no hierarchies and handle everything through sex.

Human are inherently altruistic and cooperative , you can plainly see this every time disaster strikes

[–] earphone843 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our behavior is closer to chimpanzees than bonobos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Our behaviors are closer to bonobos than chimpanzees

[–] earphone843 2 points 1 day ago

Lol, no. Bonobos are peaceful.

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