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I get the argument he’s making, but the comparison between individual emissions, even when taken in large groups, and corporate emissions are so lopsided that these arguments always strike me as underhanded false equivalencies.
For example, Google emitted 14.31 million metric tons of carbon dioxide in 2023, while an individual American averaged around 13.8 metric tons of carbon dioxide during the same time period. That’s more than an order of magnitude if I’m doing my math right. Sure, individuals can always do better, but even collective action won’t come close to a single corporation’s emissions. Lay the blame where it actually belongs.
How many times did you ping Google servers today? AI bullshit aside, this is still on us for using all of their services. Yes they need to find a way to deliver their services sustainably but it's our job to regulate them and force the issue and not just hope corpos do the right thing (they won't).
I stopped using google years ago, but my adblock shows that google servers get pinged when browsing the web. Same for AWS, there is no way to avoid it without completely going offline.
That's fair, I was more referring to the casual internet use so many folks enjoy (YouTube, maps, search for literally everything, all the apps and updates, etc). Denying them revenue through ad blockers and avoiding their direct services gets you pretty close though.