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[–] [email protected] 95 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Sounds like a scapegoat. Am I to believe that cheaters would install Linux, just use a cheat in a game?

If they can detect cheaters, couldn’t they also detect if the cheater is using Linux? Where’s the stats?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 days ago (4 children)

They tweeted this graph in early December:

[…] In this chart, we're displaying the infection rate, or the rate of matches that had a cheater present. […]

Note how the graph is missing labels and how neither it nor the tweet include information on how these metrics were gathered.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If they know who is on Linux and who is reported as cheating, they wouldn't use such a speculative metric to conclude that the cheaters are using linux.

I would find it very hard to believe that they don't know which OS each client is using.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 4 days ago

And then cheating rises again.

So whatever caused cheating to decrease relative to the population (assuming that's what's being measured) is probably to blame.

Here's a different explanation:

  1. EA announces new update, so users flock back before it goes live (first major dip)
  2. Update goes live (steeper dip) and more users return to try it out; some cheat engines don't work on the update, which adds to the dip
  3. Cheat engines start getting patched, hence the rise after bottoming out; number is still lower due to larger population (same number of cheaters)

A better test is to keep support for Linux for the launch, then drop it in a minor patch update a few days later.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

That chart doesn't even show correlation. Cheating was having a downward trend then. Continued the downward trend after banning Linux users. What?!?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago

(Replying to myself) Even if these numbers are legit, we don’t know the process or exact metrics used.

This data may include falsely banned players on Linux (which was reported before they restricted Linux) and may exclude many cheaters on Windows (any of those who weren’t caught). We don’t know.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

I wonder how the graph looks compared to school semesters stopping and starting. I bet it’s similar

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Am I to believe that cheaters would install Linux, just use a cheat in a game?

You seem to severely underestimate the extreme lengths cheaters will go to in order to cheat. Not only are modern cheats very expensive (like 20+ dollars per WEEK subscriptions), but the ones that are the hardest to detect require a second PC connected to the main PC using a direct memory access module so that the cheat can read the game's memory in a way that is impossible to notice for the Anti-Cheat running on the game PC. On top of that they spend time and money on stolen/farmed accounts, spoofing hardware and phone numbers, and buying entirely new PCs when they get detected and banned.

Installing Linux is a tiny obstacle compared to all the other shit these losers are willing to go through in order to cheat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As someone who only has minimal passing knowledge of the current competitive games - what do cheaters get out of going to such lengths?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mostly they get to be cunts on the internet and get off on the hate.

Some hide the fact that they're cheating and try to pretend they're actually good players.

Usually there's no real or monetary reward, other than like boosting services that might use cheats.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

That's just...sad.