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[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Leftists have always been mostly pro-gun. Not in a fetishist, burning desire to murder in the way that right wingers are. We just understand that it's a lot harder to oppress an armed group, and also that the oppressive system isn't gonna overthrow itself.

That's not to say change through peaceful means isn't possible or shouldn't be attempted as much as possible, but it has generally only ever worked with the threat of violence should it fail. But history and theory shows us it will probably come to violence.

Who are we going to arm? Undocumented people? Trans people?

Sounds like a great start. We're all oppressed by capitalism, but marginalized like these are also oppressed in different ways on top of that (intersectionality). Good on identifying that.

And they're going to shoot who? The cops, ICE? what's the plan General?

We've not had to deal with large scale civil conflicts in most of the west for a while. But when it comes down to it, yeah probably. We haven't reached that point yet, seemingly.

But anyway if you still hold Liberal views about banning all guns from private ownership I urge you to encourage gun ownership among marginalized people. You will never see the government quicker to ban guns than the day they start arming themselves en masse. California's (relatively) stronger gun laws started to be passed in response to Black Panther members encouraging much the same under Reagan's governorship.