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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No, we're "chortling" about both. You just wont see people discussing US censorship in a thread about CCP censorship, unless some asshat brings up a what-aboutism.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

If the crux of your argument is based on an ethical or moral judgement you open yourself to whataboutisms. Otherwise any time any one brings up hypocritical behavior it would be a fallacy.

On the other hand, if you simply observe a fact, like this censorship, people who bring up a whataboutism are actually engaging in strawmanning.

Tl;Dr whataboutisms are a disputed fallacy and it quite frankly probably depends on context and motivation for whether it counts

My personal guideline is when it's being used as a defense or excuse instead of a refutation of a claim (explicit or implicit) of moral or ethical superiority.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The fuck are you going on about? All I'm saying is is that the only reason you might hear about [topic x] in a thread about [topic y] is people deflecting.

Want to complain about American censorship? Make a new post. Plenty of things to complain about now. You'll see plenty of the same people,

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's fair; my interest is only passing and my experiences are limited.