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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Hitler proudly claimed to have "stolen Socialism from the Marxists," meanwhile the Soviets and Nazis hated each other. The Soviets held to Marxism and worked to uplift the Proletariat, while the Nazis held to an incoherent ideology only explainable by what it served, wealthy Capitalists.

Again, calling things "fascism" that don't meet the definition just obfuscates what you're trying to talk about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I completely agree with what you said about Hitler. In fact, even worse. His stealing of the word socialism for his own purposes did major damage to the concept people had of socialism. Calling a system that exploits workers and laborers socialism, when the whole idea was to put the workers in charge, damages the idea in people's minds.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The biggest damage Hitler and the Nazis did was stop a genuine Communist revolution within Germany. Had Germany genuinely gone Socialist, it's very likely other highly developed Capitalist countries would have had revolutions as well, and not just the underdeveloped countries like Cuba, China, Russia, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, etc. Had Western Europe gone largely Communist, only the US would really stand as a bulwark of Capitalism, separated by the Ocean, at which point it would have been only a matter of time.

That's not even to mention that the Holocaust would have been stopped before it happened, and the USSR wouldn't have had half of its dwellings destroyed by the Nazi invasion. The Soviets would not have had to focus so much on rebuilding, and likely would not have had to spend so much of their overall GDP on Millitary R&D to keep the United States at bay during the Cold War, crippling their economic growth and eventually leading to dissolution.

Israel as a genocidal project would likely not exist either. Palestine would be free.

I can't understate how different history would look today had the Communists succeded in Germany.