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Well first off, we go camping 3 seasons a year, sometimes twice a month. Renting a car for camping, sometimes hundreds of miles away a dozen times a year doesn’t make any financial sense. Second, it’s our only big car and it’s used every time we have to pack the kids, dog, and luggage to go somewhere. My daily driver is a 4 door Subaru, not a Tahoe.
If I only need to tow or pack a vehicle once a year, I’d definitely consider renting, but that’s just not the case. I just hauled about 1000 lbs of lumber from home depot today- it literally gets used for its purpose on a weekly basis.
I’m not arguing the point there are lots of pickup bros that just run around in a king ranch solo and spend their weekend polishing it and taking all the parking spots at the mall, I’m just saying I really don’t think it’s really 99%. I see hundreds of tradespeople and weekend home improvement warriors on a daily basis.
Every pickup bro think pickups are justified. And they trot out all the same points you just made.
I offer you challenge: count every pickup you see, and record whether or not it has a load. I actually did that for a month, and its literally below 1% usage.
If I'm hauling a trailer 1% of the time, and drive on the road 3x a day, then I'm hauling roughly once a month, which is a bit low for my usage, but it's reasonable. Pulling a trailer once a month is a legitimate need for a truck though, that's not daily, but it is often enough to need a vehicle for it, and I don't want to have to rent something on a monthly basis just because you think I'm inefficient. If I had space for a second vehicle maybe I'd get a smaller daily driver, but I don't, so I drive a truck.
That's what you sound like.
Yes, too many people have large trucks that don't really use them for their purpose, but some of them are not that different from a sports car or sedan when not hauling a load for mileage and shouldn't be expected to be used 24/7. SUVs are probably worse overall than trucks when it comes to excess unused space and mediocre mileage, but nobody complains about those.
Sports cars sure, but sedans? Buuuuullshit.
Why not?
Are you serious, people complain about oversized SUVs all the time. Please.
You've now reached the tone of desperate justification that people with oversized vehicles always fall back to.
It’s my truck and I shouldn’t have to haul things in it 24/7 to justify its use to you.
If you don't think you should have to justify it's use, then why have you made all these comments attempting to do just that?
Hahahaha this is literally every conversation with a truck/suv owner
Oh you have me mistaken. I’m not justifying my use of my truck to you guys. I’m simply informing y’all that despite what you believe, trucks are needed. I do believe that lift kits shouldn’t be a thing, they compromise the truck. But not everyone out here that owns a truck is an asshole.
People are wondering why I need a truck and it’s simple, I wouldn’t be able to do my job without one. But people in these threads often forget that and think “hurr durr trucks should be banned.”
Please lmao