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why is there 0 response on the honey and billet labs thing, which is part of that same wan show? what's with this half done response, why not show all the receipts? and also, why does he bring up a threat of legal action when there was no actual threat of legal action if you see that wan show?
this is such a disappointment, I'm apparently meant to watch as these two adults constantly miscommunicate, misunderstand and ignore half of what the other has said online, and stretch the back and forth even longer than it needs to. This will take like 5 wan shows and gn articles to conclude properly
The legal action is, i think, because linus is basically dragging them through some deep mud by saying he is wrong and what he does are lies. Now i know gn kinda started it by mentioning them in the honey lawsuit video, and they shouldnt have, not like how they did ( but they were right that linus should have spoken up in 2017 because they knew what was going on ).
I also suspect there is no reaction on the honey and biletlabs thing because there is nothing new to add. We know linus knew but kept his mouth shut about it and why, and we know ltt's internal workings fucked up everything about the biletlabs prototype (the video, the mislabeling of item, the auction, ... ).
This whole thing is a shitfest and both parties need to calm the fuck down, which a threat at legal action might force them to do so.
My opinion is that linus (again) shouldve kept his mouth shut about how "his head wouldve rolled if he spoke about honey" because that was wrong of him. Gn shouldnt have made the low punch towards ltt after that which caused linus to (again) not shut up and make things worse.
Which was only mentioned because the original investigator, MegaLag, also mentioned LTT as part of the investigation into honey.
Funny how people are rather obessive over ignoring this crucial point, while trying to make Steve seem obsessed with Linus/LTT.
Oh i know, i saw megalag's video before it blew up and ltt was indeed already in some bad spot because of it. Doesnt mean they (gn) should have gone with a low blow of showing the wan show bit and responding to it as they did.
That said, i agree with the core of their problem though. Gn are doing the right thing in the end and linus shouldve done so too back then.
Wasnt LTT also informed by other peers? Don't remember much of any coverage by any other outlet.
And I think Linus even said that the information went around in the creator circles but didnt reach viewership.
Yeah I’ve come to the conclusion that anyone whose main job is creating “content” is a piece of shit.
But some have Jesusier hair than others, and as such my own allegiance has been destined without say.
Edit: FR the deciding factor was the 70 dollar screwdriver along with the "trust me bro" warranty. He's a scumbag. His "media group" primarily produces entertainment clips with no value. I get some informative content from GN in comparison.
Every warranty is a "trust me bro" warranty, that was his point from the start. Have you ever actually read warranty terms?
"Guys guys guys, you should totally know those legally binding warranty documents are just as bullshit as a guy on youtube saying just trust me bro. its all the same. Just trust me on it, bro "
They're all explicitly written in legalese to give the manufacturer final say as to whether to honour it. You should really read one someday.
And different countries have different terms. At some point it becomes good will by thr conpany to fulfill the promise.
Try that shit here in Brazil and your company is paying some fines you could not have dreamed of. And guess what, the customer would get their warranty regardless of your desire.
You're missing the point. Warranties as written by the company are not legally binding, plus they all claim the company has final say on it. So having that paper or not is meaningless, even if the country has good customer law you get those benefits regardless of the company giving you a paper. So even then at the end of the day any warranty is a "trust me bro", that being said a paper makes the trust be easier to place.
Again I ask you, have you ever read warranty terms?
Notice how I said brazilian law, yet you're pretending the logic in your country would apply.
A company could write any warranty terms they wanted - hell, they could write a clause claiming "I hate laws and I'm willingly subjecting myself to the terms of this manufacturer, no takesies-backsies" and guess what, I'd still be protected by the lawful warranty process.
A company can set their own terms for additional warranties they might want to offer as part of their marketing, with some restrictions still. But for the legal minimum? No warranty terms in the world could violate them.
If Brazilian law offers such good consumer protections by default, then that just further proves the point that a written policy isn't necessary
Of course it is, because the point isn't whether or not they could deny doing the bare minimum - they can't.
The point is companies like LTT use a "extended warranty!", "lifetime warranty!", "never have a headache with our products in your life!" as part of their marketing, so they make these claims to change how the customer will evaluate their purchase... yet they try to get away with having undefined terms, because this way, they can actually deny the promised lifetime warranty for whatever random bullshit they come up with.
Both situations are protected in Brazilian law. Certainly the bare minimum doesn't have to be written, the law does so for you already, but any claims of further protections need to be written and can't be changed after the fact.
It's like none of them have seen Tommy Boy.