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Yeah, I think massive chemical batteries for storing excess electricity to facilitate a contrived green energy market is a bad idea.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ever seen what happens when a coal mine catches fire? Link

I guess we should just go back to water mills right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

back to water mills

Hydroelectric has grown up since then. See: hoover dam

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dams are actually really bad for the environment. They were sold as good because they don't burn coal but it turns out that blocking rivers interferes with everything along it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hydroelectric dams have also claimed more human lives than any other type of power plant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure cancers and other health issues have killed way, way more than hydroelectric.

Not including the climate change thing...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's complicated, but in terms of direct kills, hydro power takes the cake. If you're also considering indirect kills, fossil fuel power is far and away the worst offender and I think that's before you even account for climate change deaths: image

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I agree it's complicated, if you make it so.

In terms of scale, direct kills are a rounding error compared to the damage of climate change.

In terms of indirect kills, like accidents, coal still beats hydropower by a long shot if you include the actual history of coal and steam boats, in part simply from a lack of standards or care in safety (and that's even if you exclude coal lung as an indirect kill).

While you make perfect the enemy of good, the world will burn, just as those who own the fossil fuels desire.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i think you forgot to attach an image. or you're a boring person

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nothing boring about a fire that's been burning for at least 62 years, possibly 86, and has caused the permanent evacuation of two towns.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

There's a geyser because of the underground heat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not Centralia but Hazlewood in 2014. Thought I'd use a more recent and closer to home image

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

They should have updated the road sign to include a fire warning there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

woah, interesting