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[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I skimmed, but I disagree wholeheartedly with the notion of any anti-war message that discourages support in and for Ukraine without putting at least that much emphasis in the need for Russian soldiers to get out of Ukraine (its borders restored, including Crimea, with tangible guarantees secured against further Russian aggression) and stay out. Anything less than that undermines the argument as being one of 'class solidarity' against a ruling elite conducting conscription, but rather one of people willing to sell out their country just to save their own skins.

Reading the piece more than I did at first, it reads extremely much like a pro-Russia propaganda piece, in terms of framing the Ukrainian government as an 'authoritarian militarist country', a notion that is laughable when you not only compare Ukraine to Russia, but also consider that it is Russia that invaded Ukraine, after having already illegally annexed Crimea, not the other way around. Realize that Russia's territorial aspirations do not end with what they've seized so far, and 'pacifism' will just lead to another "peace in our time".

Furthermore, framing NATO as part of the problem, rather than an inevitable safety net against Russian aggression, is parroting the false narrative the Russian government spun as an excuse to invade Ukraine in the first place.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

framing the Ukrainian government as an 'authoritarian militarist country', a notion that is laughable when you not only compare Ukraine to Russia, but also consider that it is Russia that invaded Ukraine, after having already illegally annexed Crimea

the way they treat protesters and antiwar activists, according to the interviewee, indicates it's a valid criticism. Russias actions don't change that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's an anarchist outlet. they're not pro Russia. they're antigovernment.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Per the text, they're not equally anti the Russian government as they are the Ukrainian government though. As there is no outcome in which any of Ukraine will end up in the hands of no government, a pragmatic anarchist should still be able to recognize that a democratic society will result in a greater level of personal freedom than one with a regime such as Russia's.

Conscription when one's country is being invaded does not diminish the value of that democracy, as nothing less than that will keep Ukrainians from being forcibly assimilated into Russian society.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The Russian government isn't the one conscripting him or threatening to jail his comrades.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

a democratic society

i doubt they see a capitalist state as democratic.