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The NYC subway is using AI to detect fare dodgers (www.theverge.com)
submitted 2 years ago by spez to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

anyone wealthy enough to buy a car can use it for free

Anyone with a car is paying additional taxes for fuel and car registration.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Those typically don’t cover all of transportation dept budgets, and fuel taxes are on the permanent decline.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Ticket prices don't cover the full costs of train infrastructure and maintenance either. The point is the statement "anyone wealthy enough to buy a car can use it for free" is demonstrably false and using a demonstrably false statement as a counterpoint is...inadvisable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Felt there was an implicit understanding that cars need gas, but yeah that’s fair.

[–] elvis_depresley 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I should have specified “… can use the infrastructure for free”. The car will cost money, but you can only use it because everyone subsidises roads, bridges, parking and much more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Car drivers are demonstrably paying taxes for the ability to drive on public roads, they are demonstrably not "using the infrastructure for free". They pay taxes for every mile they drive on a public road. Gas is taxed and cars have regular registration taxes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Not to mention, roads are also used for logistics.

[–] elvis_depresley 4 points 2 years ago

fuel tax in the US is a joke, in Europe it’s higher but still doesn’t cover anywhere near the infrastructure cost.

This video illustrates it nicely.