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[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Boots up gaming PC

Windows: "YOU IN DANGER ZONE! NEED WINDOWS 11! BUY NEW PC U SCRUB!!!111"

Load up Steam

Steam: "Hey, I see MS are being assholes - click here to install SteamOS instead"

Reboot PC

Millions of people never run windows again

I'm dreaming but that would be amazing. That would make this the year of the Linux desktop. C'mon GabeN, make it happen!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you sure you don't want to create a microsoft ID? Microsoft believes that you should only trust them with all of your data and credentials. They promise they won't hand over your information to the government unless the government serves them a subpoena or has an agreement to access the data that is lawful or they detect something they have been asked to report.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Well you wouldn't mind the government just checking unless you're a criminal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

You forgot the endless pages of trick questions you have to periodically step through to get into Windows. One wrong move and you owe Microsoft money every month.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Things which are holding this back

  • Collaboration with OEMs to provide SteamOS OTTB (Lenovo is an exception)
  • Nvidia support. Most gamers use Nvidia GPU unfortunately
  • Certain industry-standard software which don't have a Linux port. PSA: Most people don't want to learn alt software. Johnny Mainstream is scared of new softwares. This cannot be changed
  • End-users suffer from choice paralysis and Linux offers endless choice. Maybe SteamOS can help.

What we know so far, SteamOS won't be a general purpose OS, so it might not support every random piece of h/w.

We might not have the year of the Linux Desktop, but we can expect 2025-2026 to be the year of the Linux handheld.

SRC: Linux fanboy for the last decade

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Nvidia works flawlessly in my system, didn't have to tweak anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Choice paralysis is a surprisingly big issue. I'm waiting for the parts for my new gaming PC build to arrive, and the amount of time I've spent choosing a distro has been asinine.
But I did make the choice to leave both the NVIDIA and Windows eco systems on my desktop after seeing most my games run fine on the steam deck ( along with disliking windows 11, and NVIDIA ending gamestream support)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As the saying goes, you have to use arch or you have a small penis

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Hey! Some of us manage both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Distro doesn’t really matter too much. Just don’t get some obscure distro that no one has heard of before.

Plus it’s pretty common for newbies to jump around to test out different distros anyway.

Most of the time, the differences you will see are just desktop environment.

After you have used Linux for some time, then you will understand the major differences between the distros other than the way they look.

If you have any questions about Linux feel free to send me a DM. I’m always happy to help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Surprisingly for a choice that I realize doesn't really matter, it still ends up burning alot of time researching.

Intially looked at Bazzite, which seemed great other than I wasn't a fan of it immutability, I've had to remove the read-only property from my steam deck a few times.

Then I looked at CatchyOS/Arch, decided to avoid that as I know I'm too lazy to read notes every update, and while I don't mind tinkering and fixing stuff.. I want it to be on my schedule lol.

Avoiding Debian, my server currently runs it, but I remember it giving me headaches installing older JREs on it to run modded minecraft servers.

So I'm going to try OpenSuse, not for any real valid reason other than the last time I tried Linux as my daily driver ( 2004/2005) it was the first distro that worked smoothly without any driver headaches.

[–] DannyBoy 15 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Does anybody remember Wubi? It was Linux that was installed on Windows just like a regular program. Gave you an option to choose Linux on boot. It didn't make any partitions, and if you didn't want it anymore? Then you'd go to Windows and uninstall like any other program. It had a few limitations but was an interesting concept.

[–] fruitycoder 3 points 13 hours ago

Of course! It's what got me started!

I love it as a concept, and frankly a dual boot installer (create partitions) that worked from Windows would be pretty useful I think. USB/disk installs add complexity that just hurt the chances.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I remember Wubi! That was 20-ish years ago now. It kind of got made irrelevant by VM's I guess. I wonder if it's still around.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

VMs are still slow unless you're talking linux on linux with KVM

Wubi was great because you got native speed to test Linux with, which was probably better than Windows for at least most versions of Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There's WSL now in Windows 11 - a built-in, pretty performant instance of Linux. The recent versions run a proper Linux kernel I believe (the older ones were more of a compatibility layer over Windows APIs). I'm not sure what the limitations of WSL are. But there is already some kind of Linux in Windows. I use it for the odd utility and to avoid having to learn PowerShell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

There is. Wubi was more about giving 14 year old me the confidence to try out an entirely different os.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That would be a massive headache because you'd have to make it work on any hardware. And if you bork your users' PCs you're in for a really bad time. It would be much better to come up with a new Steam machine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

i mean… any hardware is kinda just a matter of time imo

linux already works with more hardware than windows does, and often more reliably - not some of the complex stuff required for gaming of course, but again… matter of time. it’s not important until it’s important and then it really kicks off

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Big old citation needed there.

Supports more hardware... But not gaming hardware... And not industrial hardware which is often windows only.. But def more...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

"It erased pictures of my nana, Im going to sue Gabe Newell!" Windows users 🙄🙄

(I am that user)