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[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Of course Hamas is not stupid like the PA. They will not recognize Israel unless Israel agrees to a two state solution.

Your arguments are the most generic Hasbara so I am not assuming you are speaking in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Hamas stated "from the river to the sea" in that charter you yourself mentioned. That could not be any more ambiguous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago) (1 children)

Yes of course they have the right to regain all their stolen land unless Israel wants to accept a deal. What is your point exactly?

Read this before typing your next comment

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/5/2/hamas-accepts-palestinian-state-with-1967-borders

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

without recognising the statehood of Israel

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They've pretty explicitly been aiming for a Palestinian state in the territories occupied since 1967. And not just recently, proposals for a permanent ceasefire (which sets the first steps towards recognition and normalization of relations) with Israel under these conditions go back to 1999. Conveniently, both Israel and the US didn't find it necessary to respond.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Hamas still doesn't recognise Israel, do they?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago (1 children)

Does Israel recognize West Bank as Palestine?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

From the article you linked:

without recognising the statehood of Israel,

Exactly the point. Both sides need to recognise each other. This isn't a sports competition. It doesn't require a PhD to figure that one out.