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Jesus, they use Zypper ~~instead of~~ as opposed to APT, now this. Do they have some kind of a traditional ritual of getting high before naming these things?
Apparently, the name was just the obvious technical name, since they started this during a hackathon where they didn't want to spend time on naming. And supposedly, they're also still looking for name suggestions, but yeah, I do find it slightly weird to publicly announce the name, if they are still planning to change it...
Meh… I find it refreshing that they set aside formality. It’s part of what makes the Linux world a little different in a good way. Unlike the big corporate world with lots of Capital letters and ™ legal © symbols everywhere.
Honestly, I do, too, but found it difficult to articulate. We expect them to come up with a good branding, because it's a corporation. If this were a random person just throwing something out there as open-source, we'd welcome them no matter how odd the name might be. Heck, I might even appreciate that they've chosen a clearly non-marketable name, because it clearly shows that they have no interest in making money off of it.
Yeah I think there’s a way to see it from either perspective.
zypper predates apt (which isn't the same as apt-get)
Well yeah but my point was really just that it’s a goofy name. Not instead of, more like as opposed to.
P.S. interesting factoid that I didn’t know. Thanks. But with regard to your caveat: did you mean that apt-get predates zypper? Because that’s sufficient.
No, apt-get is the oldest. It was one utility out of a set of utilities. I always found it super dumb that you hat to use a completely different tool to search for a package (apt-cache, I think).
zypper was released in 2006.
The all in one apt command was introduced by Debian 8 in 2015.
Yeah I find it weird when I see instructions that still reference apt-get.
@AndrewZabar @woelkchen really ? I discard them immediately as they seem super old
That's not really a sensible way to deal with instructions if they're the only ones available for a specific tool. Old does not mean anything.
@AndrewZabar using EndeavourOS, for example, searching how to install the Nvidia drivers, you can find old results such as installing nvidia-dkms.... yay -S nvidia-dkms, that could have been useful 3 years ago but now it breaks the display, you should instead yay -S nvidia-inst && nvidia-inst & everything will work perfectly
Okay but nvidia drivers? Could you choose a more volatile topic? Those things have never not been a problem lol.
@AndrewZabar in 2024, you just yay -S nvidia-inst && nvidia-inst & everything works so they are no longer a problem
Glad to hear that, but I still see one post after another where people have problems, so I think reality maybe doesn’t comply quite as you’d like to think.