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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Told people already it's not as decentralized as people might believe or has being told to them. I will never join Bluesky.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Did anyone actually think it would be? It just had to be not Twitter. Mastodon would've been awesome but apparently the barrier for entry was more than the average person willing to accept.

[–] zarkanian 1 points 8 hours ago

Did anyone actually think it would be?

I assume so. They've certainly been trumpeting it enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

Yes a lot of people went away from Mastodon to Bluesky, thinking indeed it was open source and decentralized. Jack Dorsey is selling BlueSky like that. Also various media outlets are saying: "Is Bluesky decentralized? Yes."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Gonna be real, microblogging is never gonna really work with decentralization. It barely works when centralized. It's isolating by nature, and only really amplifies the voices that are already the loudest, and the introduction of separate servers and federation delays only make those problems worse.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Decentralization is is unobtainable. You have to have a source of truth. DNS has shown us the way, everyone else is fucking around.

Gotta have a trusted org to manage identities.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yesn't. Yes we have DNS, which is bad enough. But the internet itself was build to be resistant and distributed. DNS is distributed, but not decentralized. However, decentralized protocols (read BitTorrent protocols, etc.) do exist, and does make it more decentralized. Without the need of DNS.

I'm never doing to trust a single org or group to control a large group of users/people or projects. Never.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago

Nothing that involves authoritative state of data can be decentralized. Ultimately something is a source of truth. Who decides what the torrent data is? Congratulations, your system is now centralized.

Decentralized systems are anarchist mastubatory fantasy, distributed systems are what runs the world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Let me guess, you and/or your buddies are the trustworthy ones?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You can spin up your own instance to ensure you have a custom username suffix. That's literally all anyone needs to distinguish themselves from fake accounts. Trusting any org to remain a neutral authority is a mistake and a bigger risk than getting users to agree on an accurate source based on a suffix.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

This is a neckbeard dream, and it is why activity pub will never take off.

Grandma ain’t running her own instance, but she can swipe her card and get “grandmahotstuff.com” tied to her ATproto DID.

As long as the did is maintained by a neutral org like let’s encrypt, and icann remains functional, it’s a superior model, as those orgs are now tied to the functioning of the internet itself.