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Programmers: Stop Calling Yourselves Engineers (www.theatlantic.com)
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Old, but fun read that argues that today's programmers are not like typical Engineers and shouldn't really call themselves that as Engineering requires certification, is subject to government regulation, bear a burden to the public, etc.

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[–] weker01 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In Germany engineer is a regulated term. Computer scientists wanting to call themselves engineer or software engineer need to complete certain higher education programs. A B.Sc. program in CS is enough for example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

The people doing software engineering without such a degree in the US are definitely in the minority, so there's not much point to the hand-wringing generally speaking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Same for the Netherlands.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yep, but only the Dutch word is protected so we just use English titles everywhere

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same in France. Anyone can call themselves a "software engineer". But the title of "engineer" (ingénieur) is specific for people who graduated from a school allowed to deliver engineering degrees.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In Dutch it’s also ingenieur, I wonder where we got that from

[–] weker01 3 points 3 days ago

It comes from the Latin word ingenium.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Really? I thought Ir. is only with a masters

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That is correct. There is both and Ing and Ir title that are Engineer. Ir for masters and Ing for higher education.

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