this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2024
1451 points (98.7% liked)
196
16721 readers
2425 users here now
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Real question, what things on Apple were so restrictive that you think it’s a prison?
Anything outside of the ecosystem is intentionally crippled at nearly every turn. At least on windows, everything’s equally crippled.
I’m looking for examples, please.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2024/11/14/apple-hit-with-375-billion-icloud-anti-competitive-lawsuit-on-behalf-of-40-million-brits/
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5119948/a-look-at-the-dojs-lawsuit-against-apple-for-violating-antitrust-laws
The decades of “dreaded green bubbles” before RCS messaging, which still hasn’t fixed every problem but is admittedly a good step forward - and almost certainly only because they’re finally facing legal action for their practices.
Same story with the goofy ass apple proprietary chargers - and no, I don’t really give them credit for things they only do as the result of legal action.
This is a really weird hill to be like “what??? Apple??? Anti-competitive???”
This is your very first mention of anything being “anti-competitive”. We were talking about Apple “being a prison” and I was asking for examples because 90% of the people in this thread are saying things that flat out aren’t true. One dude brought up the 30 pin connector from the fucking iPod even.
They have a long history of overpriced proprietary cables and connectors ... Are you disputing it? The ipod 1 is a valid example and there were plenty other examples afterwards... They lock you in. Apple is a prison, or walled garden if you prefer that term.
everything had proprietary connectors in the 2000s. I literally have boxes and boxes of old junk with proprietary connectors. I had the first large format android phone, the Dell Streak and it had a proprietary connector. And that was like 2011, 2012! Usb-C was still being standardized (Apple helped standardize it fyi) when the Lightning connector came out. And no, there’s no examples past 2012, it’s literally just Lightning since then.
Acting like cables are locking you in is hilarious. The true lock in to an ecosystem is what Apple does with their wireless tech. You can’t use Apple’s special connections like they do with their watches, headphones, laptops, etc. if you’re another manufacturer. So you get true actual lock-in. A cable costs 5 bucks, even the lightning ones, that isn’t lock-in.
Saying anything Apple did in the 2000s was lock in is just disingenuous, because standardized technology barely existed and it was fucking shit. Every manufacturer made their own cables, communication protocols, etc. because there wasn’t anything good to standardize on.
It’s clear you don’t have any actual examples from literally the past decade so get out of here. This conversation is done.
That's just not true, there was for example already standardised mini-usb at the time of the ipod.