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These folks don't deserve sympathy when karma comes knocking, they are akin to mass murderers. The media can fuck right off

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That would make sense for this case, but what about the right to freedom from enslavement? Most of America did not agree with that for a while. I would argue it was still a right. What about gay marriage? Majority of Americans disagreed with it until recently. And I'm not sure that one was ever about money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think the majority argument is skewed for alot of those due to the nature of our journalism and reporting through US history. I don't think that a majority of people viewed gay marriage for example as something that should be outlawed, but it was something unfamiliar and they didn't have enough points of reference in their life to base their argument off of. As it became more mainstream, people just kind of went 'whatever', the radicals (religious) get the spotlight from the media but I grew up in a hyper conservative household, and even we were fine with and had friends who were gay. My roommate in college was gay and the only person who had anything off to say was my grandmother who grew up in the 50s+60s.

I think i should shift my statement to say "rights are things that the majority of the people believe to be true, only if it affects a large enough amount of the people"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I was mainly just getting at how we make up rights as we go. I have heard of few things that gain steam as a "right" which I disagree with myself, but I was just trying to illustrate that a right isn't a "fact". Which it appears you get. Opinions about them change over time. I might be older than you, because most people I ever talked to about gay marriage 1996-2005 thought it shouldn't be legal. And no it wasn't just my friends or local folks. That attitude was fairly popular. Go back 100 years and most people probably preferred the death penalty for gay people.

The main point is that rights are never guaranteed because they're rarely unanimously agreed upon.