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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It wasn't unavoidable but also it was his aggressive behaviour towards others that directly lead to him being subdued. I'm not sure the situation would've been different with a white guy acting aggressive towards fellow passengers, especially a mother and her child.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The point is neither situation should ever happen in a system that puts humanity over profits. A mentally ill, homeless, and starving person should exist in our society because we have the means to house, feed, and provide Healthcare for everyone. (we just don't have the morality)

Also, the strangle hold was applied for 5 min. I'm no expert but when someone goes limp from blood flow being blocked, you usually don't need to continue choking them for an additional 4 min.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It shouldn't happen but such a situation where someone becomes hostile can occur even when theoretically everyone's every need is taken care of. It's unfortunate that it did though.

Also, the strangle hold was applied for 5 min. I’m no expert but when someone goes limp from blood flow being blocked, you usually don’t need to continue choking them for an additional 4 min.

That's what the court case was over. Nobody is really disagreeing about the homeless man having been aggressive and a threat and needing to be subdued, it was just about whether the person who subdued him was guilty of "criminally negligent homicide".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Wasn't Penny a combat vet though? Perhaps he did overreact and Neely didn't have to die (I sure don't think he deserved THAT even though he certainly did act like a piece of sh*t), but it's hard to understand what's going through someone's mind when they're facing a life or death situation.

It's a regrettable outcome for sure but did Penny really deserve life in prison for trying to protect others from violence? It seems rather likely that someone would have died that night, and if it wasn't Neely, it would have likely been someone more innocent.