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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I think it's probably too early for this to mean much of anything. Most people who bought an EV bought it new within the past ten years and probably haven't needed to replace their car yet. I don't doubt that the vast majority of EV buyers will choose an EV as their next car, but over 99% would be an incredible statistic if that's what we see ten years from now.

I bought a gas RAV4 in 2016 because I didn't think the tech was quite there yet and I couldn't sit around on a waiting list even if I was ready to trust the tech yet. But even then, I said to myself "this is the last gas powered vehicle I'll ever buy." Just a few weeks short of 9 years later, I believe that now more than ever. If my car dies today, I'm shopping for an EV, probably a Ford if they're still doing that incentive to throw in the upgraded home charging station installation or whatever that promo was. And once that infrastructure is in somebody's home, why go back to using gasoline? Even without that, charging on a standard outlet overnight is plenty for most and is already a massive change in habits and routines that people won't want to change back from. I don't like having to stop at a gas station every few days. I don't like oil changes. Who would choose to go back to all this bullshit after tasting life without that level of hassle? Especially now that the gap in cost between ICE and EV has dropped so much.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

the only one i know of that dumped their ev to go back to gas is an idiot to begin with; but at any rate, he bought a used 1st gen 500e for his rural commute.

and yup. he couldn't even get to work and back on a single charge. epa range of 87 miles--when new. 90-95 mile round-trip commute.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's roughly my current commute. New mid budget ($40kish) EVs seem to generally have a range of like 300 miles, and that's only a little less than my car's range yet still plenty for my needs if I can charge at home every night or maybe every other night.

That 500e sounds like it was designed to be more for people with a <15 minute commute. It'd be great for people who live and work within one city and have everything they need within 20 miles or so of home.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, in Europe you probably wouldn't find too many people that have a close to 100mi commute. That range is fine if you have a shorter commute or if you commute using public transport and you only need your car for shopping/school runs etc.

I still have an ICE, but I only need to get petrol once a month, and the longest drive I do is typically something like 50km both ways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The original 500e was a “compliance car”. It got horrible range and had slow charging. It’s main purpose was to meet California average emissions standards. Which is a shame because the rest of the car (other than range) really was great.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compliance_car

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