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An example of what I mean:

I, in China, told an English speaking Chinese friend I needed to stop off in the bathroom to "take a shit."

He looked appalled and after I asked why he had that look, he asked what I was going to do with someone's shit.

I had not laughed so hard in a while, and it totally makes sense.

I explained it was an expression for pooping, and he comes back with, "wouldn't that be giving a shit?"

I then got to explain that to give a shit means you care and I realized how fucked some of our expressions are.

What misunderstandings made you laugh?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

I've lived in a couple of European countries and speak 7 different European languages (though my German is kinda crap and my Italian not much better) and regularly take the piss by playing the "ignorant foreigner" with the expressions in other people's languages and acting as if, by translating them literally, I totally misunderstood them.

This works great because there are so many expressions in pretty much all languages which are have entirelly different meanings when interpreted literally but the natives don't really think about it like that because they just learned that stuff as a whole block of meaning rather than having reached it by climb the language-learning ladder from "understanding the words first" as foreigners do.

For example the English expression "I want to pick your brains" which has quite a different and more gruesome meaning if read literally or one the dutch expressions for "you're wasting time in small details" which translates quite literally to "you're fucking ants" and is my all time favorite in all languages I speak well enough to know lots of expressions in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Huh. Maybe you could help me.

I’m listening to Stromae, Pomme - Ma Meilleure Ennemie (from Arcane Season 2) Lyrics w/ translation.

And one line is “Mais comme dit le diction: Plutôt qu’être seul mieux vaut être mal accompagne.”

French (sorry for butchering some of the letters, I’ve a Nordic layout), roughly for “But as the saying goes: Better than alone, is to be in bad company.”

Reading that, I remembered a Spanish line from last weeks episode of “The Day of the Jackal”: “Mejor solo que mal acompañado.”

“It’s better to be alone than in bad company.”

Opposite sayings?

A difference in views between the French and the Spanish?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it does sound like they're opposite sayings.

I wasn't aware of the French saying, but was of the Spanish one, plus there's one which is exactly the same as the Spanish one in Portuguese.

That said, feeding "Plutôt qu’être seul mieux vaut être mal accompagne" to DDG gives pretty much only results with the saying "Mieux vaut être seul que mal accompagné", which is the same as in Spanish and Portuguese, so I'm thinking that the lyrics of the song are in fact purposefully reversing the well known saying "Mieux vaut être seul que mal accompagné" for impact.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

are in fact purposefully reversing a well known saying for impact.

Oh. Well, that does explain it. Thanks.

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