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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Yes, Climate Change Is Probably Going To Kill You (predicament.substack.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I lost respect for Mann when he took the road to blaming "doomers" for why humanity isn't taking enough action. That's a bunch of bullshit, and he knows it. I'm not sure why he veered from trying to inform people that we are in deep trouble to pointing fingers at people who are concerned.

Btw Michael, no one is saying the scientists are hiding the scary stuff. They're pointing to the same data everyone else is getting and asking why isn't anyone who can change things screaming fire. You're in that group, Michael. Why AREN'T you worried more? I don't want to make any suggestions on why you're playing this act because I don't know, but you know the science, so you should know better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These threads are filled with doomers who consider "it's worse than we thought" to be true regardless of who claims it, and any data - how well grounded in science it may be - that doesn't support impending human extinction as false.

It's funny, but as Mann points out, that's the very definition of climate science denial too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, doom and gloom just because it's trendy is bad. But doom as in, "it is worse than thought previously, because of this and that point" is not part of that. It's "oh shit, look what we've done".