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Ukraine is losing ground every day, and that worries me a lot. I do not know what they can achieve before Trump reaches office and inevitably pulls all support from Ukraine. I kinda doubt the EU will be ready to step in in equal measure right away (if ever).
My hope is that Ukraine does massive damage to the positions in Russia now that they have been given the go-ahead to strike in Russian territory.
Yes it's a so called war of attrition, Ukraine is exchanging land instead of personnel and material losses.
The strategy is to exhaust Russia, and it's actually working.
I too worry though, and I'm saddened the Ukrainians have to suffer through this through absolutely no fault of their own. But at least it seems like Ukraine is winning, and Russia is losing on more fronts like Syria and Georgia now, because the house of cards is collapsing.
The fact that Russia hasn't been able to take back the occupied areas of Kursk yet, is VERY telling.
Ukraine has done without US aid for 8 months already, when the house blocked all aid from USA. And Russia is in worse condition now, than they were back then.
What would be really cool, would be if Belarus had a system change to a more Pro European government.
Russia is probably not going to be able to help Lukashenko again if they rebel now.
Huh? The US has sent military aid nearly every month since at least April of 2024. The House did manage to interrupt the flow while they had a slapfight around military funding for Israel but that was resolved long ago. Heck, another 5.5 Billion was announced just 60 days ago!
Could, and should, the US be doing more? Absolutely! However to say that we haven't done anything for 8 months is completely absurd.
Yes that's when it was finally voted through, Ukraine got nothing from USA half of 2023 and start of 2024. For about 8 months total.
I think EU is also in a better position to help more now. Many EU countries have increased production and aid in the meantime.
Again...huh?
The US did a "final drawdown" in December of 2023 sending military aid worth about 250 Million dollars.
There was 100 Million the month before, in November of 2023.
As near as I can tell the longest run was January of 2024 into April of 2024 which is only 4 months. Still too long but that's way different than 8 months.
I think you are misremembering the political theater around approving more for 2024 and interpreting it to mean we didn't send anything in the back half of 2023.
Maybe I do, but to be honest, the aid November and December is peanuts compared to the 60 billion package. Of course it's not nothing, but it's on a level comparable to a tiny country like Denmark, with only a 50th the population of USA.
So OK maybe not nothing, but very little.