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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I believe you’ve misunderstood my point. I wasn’t discussing ‘Cultural Marxism’ as a conspiracy theory, nor was I making any claims tied to anti-Semitism. What I was explaining is the historical and intellectual roots of certain frameworks, like the oppressor-oppressed dynamic, which can be traced to Marxian economics, Critical Theory, and intersectionality. These are well-documented academic concepts, not fringe ideas.

As for Jordan Peterson, I didn’t reference him or his views, but even if I had, dismissing someone’s argument based solely on perceived influences doesn’t address the substance of what they’ve said. If you disagree, I’d be happy to discuss the specifics of where you think my understanding of these concepts is incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

like the oppressor-oppressed dynamic, which can be traced to Marxian economics, Critical Theory, and intersectionality. These are well-documented academic concepts

Provide the documentation. What does intersectionality have to do with Marxian economics? What authors have you read who discuss both?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Provide the documentation.

Andros, I’d be happy to clarify the connection, but first, I want to point out that the request ‘documentation’ assumes a level of gatekeeping that isn’t conducive to a casual discussion like this. The good news is that the information I’m drawing from is widely available and well-documented in academic literature. Read my response to the 3rd quote.

What does intersectionality have to do with Marxian economics?

While Marxian economics focuses on class, Critical Theory and Intersectionality adopt its foundational idea of systemic oppression and expand it to include social identities and cultural systems of power. I did mention this in my definition of 'woke', in a previous reply.

What authors have you read who discuss both?

Angela Davis combines feminist and Marxist thought. Academic texts I can refer you to:

  • Women, Race and Class (1981)
  • Freedom is a Constant Struggle: Ferguson, Palestine, and the Foundations of a Movement (2016)

Nancy Davis blends Critical Theory with Intersectionality. Another pair of examples that prove my point:

  • Justice Interruptus: Critical Reflections on the ‘Postsocialist’ Condition (1997)
  • Fortunes of Feminism: From State-Managed Capitalism to Neoliberal Crisis (2013)

I'm sure you'll find many connections there.

Now, Is there something specific you’d like more detail on? I’d be happy to point you toward some sources. Good day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Have you read Women, Race and Class?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm glad you asked. Yes I have, more than once. But, you know what? some chapters of the book are available at marxists.org. You can check there, if you like. Now, let me ask you this: Do you have an actual point to make , or is your goal simply to discredit me personally?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Where are you finding chapters of Davis’s work on marxists.org? I found an article discussing her work on there, but I believe most of her work is still under copyright. I have a hard copy of Women, Race and Class myself.

What would you argue Davis’s main point in that book is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

If you do own a copy, Andros, you know it covers a such a broad range of topics that it's hard to distill into a single takeaway. But if I had to sum it up, I'd say that, to truly understand the struggles of marginalized groups, particularly Black women, we need to recognize how factors like gender oppression, race and class influence each other.

I'm sure we're way off-topic now, but do you agree/disagree?