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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“This bill is not about privacy, because it will put private data at risk.

This bill is not about kids’ safety, because it will put their safety at risk.

It is not about parental oversight, because it takes those issues out of the hands of parents.

It is not about helping kids, because it’s going to shield kids from useful information that has literally saved lives.

The Republicans seem to know all this and are embracing it for these reasons. Which leaves a big question open: why are the Democrats supporting it at all?”

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dems support it because on a fundamental basis there is little difference between the two parties. Both lust after power, control and money and will break every rule to gain those - at both the party and individual member levels.

Ofc there are outliers like Bernie Sanders and (on a smaller scale) AOC, but the mere fact that the DNC pulled the 2015/16 scam on Bernie to push him out of the nomination offers clear proof that left-leaning, truly democratic outliers will never be allowed to win.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The world over, neoliberalism has created managed democracy. You can have the red neoliberals that are cruel and racist or the blue neoliberals that give you crumbs and pretend to be sad but one way or another, you're getting a neoliberal.

Because as you saw first hand, whenever they're threatened with an actual progressive, they have a class solidarity the rest of us can only dream of.

"Left-leaning" and "right-leaning" news outlets -- all of them coincidentally owned and operated by the ultra-wealthy -- united to call him a kook.

His own party repeatedly sold him out because they'd rather give Trump the best spot at the trough than get their own snouts out of it.

Sleazy corporations pooled their pennies to astroturf the ever loving fuck out of the internet and a hostile foreign government used Julian Assange to ensure the money kept flowing no matter the war crimes.

All backed by a bullshit economic philosphy that never comes true, but makes them filthy rich with every failure.

But in AOCs defense, the worst thing we could do is let infighting stop us from ever gaining the foothold we need to start prying these people from power.

And anything is better than fascists.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't argue with that, but it's a bit like saying that the surface of the Sun and a day at the beach are both hot. Like, I can't argue with you because of how you stated it, but there are matters of degrees in both cases.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fair. I simply believe the degree of separation is in the low single digits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And I'm sure that's true to your personal experience. But I hope you'll accept that for millions of Americans, we feel like one side wants to criminalize our very existence and way of life, and one side does not. Corruption aside, which I can agree is rampant across the spectrum, one side is openly questioning whether entire groups of people should be allowed to live out their lives enjoying the same freedoms as the rest of us, and that, for me, is important.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

one side wants to criminalize our very existence and way of life, and the other side will do nothing to stop them. I mean they'll make some mouth noises but when push comes to shove you'll find at their hands are always tied...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Old joke goes: one party is evil, one party is stupid. When they pass a law that's evil and stupid, they call it bipartisanship.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Which leaves a big question open: why are the Democrats supporting it at all?”

Not sure if you've been paying attention or not, but the democrats are all about controlling the flow of information on the internet, especially by "encouraging" companies to do their bidding, much like they did with Twitter and still do with Facebook etc. They want even more control over this.