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I joined lemmy after reddit API changes, as many people did. At first, it was amazing. The community felt so alive, so friendly and welcoming. Obviously, the activity wasn't exactly as large as it was on reddit, but I was patient, I knew more stuff was coming, and I was excited for it.

Unfortunately, this period would not last long. It would not last even a week until I got into my first argument with a tankie. I saw them and argued with them from time to time on reddit, but people there usually saw right through the bullshit and downvoted them to oblivion.

Here, it was so much different. They were all upvoted and supported by hordes more tankies. Constant genocide denial in China, support for Ruzzia, and somehow, for North Korea.

In retrospect, I should have left then, abandoned lemmy then and there, not really return to reddit, just leave both alone. I would have saved myself some sanity.

But I didn't, which I regret. I wasted my time here, constantly seeing this bullshit, and sometimes, I didn't even have the motivation or energy to argue with them.

The amount of genocide denial, dictatorship praising, and insane arguments I've seen in a month blew past the amount of this shit I've seen on reddit in a fucking decade.

I don't see the future in this, none whatsoever. Lemmy will be here, but it will always stay a tankie hellhole unless you block thousands of people and whole instances. And if you do, the tankies will always just migrate to other instances to keep spreading hate.

You guys are awesome. Keep doing what you are doing, but I am tired of this bullshit and I am done.

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[–] Grandwolf319 15 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Everytime I see these posts and comments I think:

“Where????”

I’ve seen 10 times more people complaining about tankies than actual tankies denying genocide. In fact, I can’t seem to think back to a single instance of someone denying China’s past acts.

Do you guys go to different instances or do you sort by controversial?

My issue with lemmy is that it basically become super political (thank you US election for ruining media again).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

“Where???”

Any active political thread about China.

[–] Grandwolf319 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

All my political posts are about the us election. When China is mentioned, it’s never positively unless it’s about EVs.

Could you link me an example by any chance?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.world/u/wurzelgummidge

Here's a constant tankie apologist if you want to run down through their comments, I'm sure they have plenty of denialism about China to offer.

[–] Grandwolf319 -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t mean give me someone’s post history.

I did a quick look and didn’t find anything that jumps at me.

It’s okay to have people have different viewpoints or even fridge ones.

I was more talking about clear examples of someone saying Chinese propaganda AND that having traction.

There is always the odd comment on every post that seems wrong, that’s why we have downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Looks like some of their recent posts were removed by the mods. There are always more looking to tread as close to denialism as they can by playing "WHATABOUT" games without catching a ban.

It’s okay to have people have different viewpoints or even fridge ones.

Yeah, no, I don't have that take with regards to atrocities or dictatorship apologia.

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