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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I think gamers as a whole, though specifically those in niche communities, need to take a long and hard look at themselves. We should celebrate the volunteers that create wonderful content for us, generally with no financial gain. Instead, commonly, there are communities that criticize and tear down every little thing they can think of. They even went as far as to doxx the poor woman. We need to be better, and we need to hold these kind of toxic trolls accountable. Especially those of us who are men, we have a responsibility to call out other men who mistreat women in the gaming industry, or gaming in general.

*Edit: I apologize if I insinuated that all gamers are guilty of this kind of behavior, that was not my intention at all. My sentiment is that many of us do not think about this kind of thing, and less are willing to speak out against their friends. We need to be better about that as a whole. I appreciate you as a person if you are already of this mindset.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

The sentiment is that we all have a responsibility to hold our community accountable for this type of behavior.

You can disagree, it is likely a matter of philosophy. I feel a responsibility to try to put more positive influence to the world, and to call out harmful actions. Not everyone does, that is fine too, albeit a little sad.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Lol you're getting downvoted for having a rational viewpoint and wanting something you care about and enjoy to be safe for other humans to enjoy it too.

How fucking dare you

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Lolol. Win some, lose some, it doesn't really matter. I made my point and am satisfied with that; it's anyone's right to disagree with me.

And if I am in the wrong for wanting a better community, then the state of humanity just makes me a little more sad. Far from surprised, however.

"Your boos mean nothing to me, I've seen what makes you cheer!"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Our community" feels a bit monolithic. It's like saying "film watchers" or "readers". Lumping anyone that plays video games regularly into a single social group feels unhelpfully reductive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

The problem is as prevalent and pervasive as the gaming community as a whole, which is most definitely monolithic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

we all have a responsibility to hold our community accountable for this type of behavior.

Much like the "teach men not to rape" sentiment, the ones that will listen weren't the problem in the first place. If the people that need to be called out were reasonable, they wouldn't need to be called out, they don't see what they're doing as wrong. So we're just screaming into the void.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, I'm not trying to be severe here, but your argument implies you would watch someone be raped without intervening. Your argument falls apart for me with that context. Someone has to yell into the void, it's something more than letting the problem fester unabated.

The ones who will listen need to learn to speak. Otherwise, why are listeners paying attention at all?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

My argument doesn't imply that at all. My argument is that you can't reason with the unreasonable. You absolutely should say or do something about these people in the moment, but its extremely rare for them to realize they were in the wrong.

Telling someone on a forum that the way they're treating a creator is wrong is not at all comparable to catching someone during a rape, and implying that because I think trying to reason with an internet troll is useless means I'd just let a rape happen is disingenuous.