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Popular Female Skyrim Modder Has Abandoned Her Work Due to Daily Harrassment (www.gamesradar.com)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I think gamers as a whole, though specifically those in niche communities, need to take a long and hard look at themselves. We should celebrate the volunteers that create wonderful content for us, generally with no financial gain. Instead, commonly, there are communities that criticize and tear down every little thing they can think of. They even went as far as to doxx the poor woman. We need to be better, and we need to hold these kind of toxic trolls accountable. Especially those of us who are men, we have a responsibility to call out other men who mistreat women in the gaming industry, or gaming in general.

*Edit: I apologize if I insinuated that all gamers are guilty of this kind of behavior, that was not my intention at all. My sentiment is that many of us do not think about this kind of thing, and less are willing to speak out against their friends. We need to be better about that as a whole. I appreciate you as a person if you are already of this mindset.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I don't understand people who "demand" things from volunteers. Open source devs, modders, and still recently content creators are/were treated like public service workers, by some.

Imagine if we went around treating artists as if they were obligated to please each of us individually with their every piece? I'm very happy to see this attitude improve with streaming and youtube, where creators are more and more met with care and support when they have to step away for a bit or retire entirely.

It sadly seems like this modder was eventually putting in tremendous effort, in a vain attempt to please absolutely everyone using her mods. But that isn't a good reason to work for free.

Any work I do for free, is something I do because I want to, but this modder explicitly says she did work she didn't want to do in order to please fans. And I can't help but ask, why? (I know why, but someone should have cared enough to show her she is allowed to just say no, and do whatever she prefers.)

The blurb about her doing music is how you're SUPPOSED to feel doing something for fun. I'm happy that she found her way to something that makes her feel that way.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it doesnt even have to be a mod, just free. See what happened with AetherSX2(android ps2 emulator) and how a bunch of people kept pestering a dev till he basiclaly quit working on it on mobile because they ask for a lot for something that was literally free.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You ever see steam discussions for early access games? Jesus fucking Christ people are entitled as shit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aren't those paid (or at least they can be)? I think that's an entirely different can of worms...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

early access games are also notorious for being dogshite and left as such, or they're fine but with obvious flaws which are never fixed because "bro it's still in early access!"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It really does depend on the game, though. Going Medieval for instance has been in early access for almost three years, but it's three years of active development. Just about every week brings some kind of update, whether it's little coding and qol stuff, to full upgrades and new mechanics being added in. They're almost done with their roadmap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Rimworld was another shining example. Its actual early access was a forum release, the Steam EA was polishing.

That being said I have a dead EA or two in my library. Starforge comes to mind...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

these are the exceptions that prove the rule

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People do this with artists too. Especially the moment you offer anything in the way of free commissions for a specific community and such.

Many forums had gfx threads, where members who enjoy putting together banners and such would offer to make something for those who asked. A good friend of mine ran one in a certain game's forum for a while and the absolute entitlement in which some of those people acted (in regards to speed and nitpicking about minor things) was disgusting. It was maybe 1 in 25 people but it soured the whole thing for her, understandably so. The moment you give people a little finger wrt their requests, one of those people will take the whole hand. The same likely applies to modding.

And I'm sure being a woman doing gaming stuff isn't helping because there's way too much sexism in gaming culture, even though there are also a lot of subcommunities that are super welcoming to everyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The moment you give people a little finger wrt their requests, one of those people will take the whole hand. The same likely applies to modding.

I suppose that depends on which finger.