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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And he was scared of Ungoliant, and we don't know what she is, besides nasty, and hungry, and shaped like a huge spider (well, spiders are shaped like her, probably).

(He also got his foot almost cut off by an elf in single combat and walked with a limp ever after — well, at least until he got his hands and feet cut off by the rest of the Valar, I suppose —, but elves were mighty back then.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I always took it that Morgoth spent too much of himself to create bullshit and that's why an elf could topple a Vala, otherwise it doesn't really make sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

He did indeed spread himself out; Arda was Melkor's "ring" as much as the one ring was Sauron's.

That said, even at his weakest, it took all the forces of Valinor, plus the men and remaining elves of Middle Earth to finally defeat and banish him. He's by far the most powerful of the Valar (and probably the Ainur).

Even if diminished, Fingolfin standing his ground against him for as long as he did and permanently crippling him was still a pretty big deal.

(You also have elves standing their ground in single combat against balrogs, and even defeating them; some elves were pretty damn powerful.)