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[September 2024] JD Vance says US could drop support for NATO if Europe tries to regulate Elon Musk’s platforms (www.independent.co.uk)

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

France's military industry is having wet dreams thinking about it.

If the US pulls out of NATO France becomes the biggest arms exporter of NATO and I would expect other countries will become less enthusiastic at the idea of buying US weapons systems.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Doesnt Germany also produce a whole lot while their own army is rotting away?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Here is the share of global arms export per country.

Germany, Italy and the UK are also big exporters but still behind France.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Im actually surprised that FR is so much higher. Really unexpected.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's not that surprising once you know that their goal is to be completely independent for their US for their military equipment.

It includes the nuclear bomb, missiles, fighter jet, aircraft carrier, submarines, even space capabilities (even if this last part has been lacking a bit lately).

They don't have the US military budget but they want the same level of technology without any ties to the US.

It means that they are exporting a lot to compensate for the high investments they are pouring into military technology.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Germany sells to KSA and the likes, now a lot is going to ukraine.

Their own equipment is unmaintained pile of trash due to US having 40k troops deployed there. Although maybe that is finally changing.