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Hello, I'm Valmond creator of the Tenfingers sharing protocol & implementation.

To make it more motivating for people to try it out, what should I share to showcase its abilities? It can be rougly anything up to say a gigabyte.

I'm thinking about music, video, parts of wikipedia, ...

Legal of course.

Any ideas greatly appreciated.

Cheers & thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

your reaction makes me more confident that this may turn into something interesting :)

i take it then that files must have some ownership information associated with them, to distinguish the author from a relay node? or is that just a private key.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks!

The file does have an ownership information (the public RSA key of the owner), it's just that a malicious node doesn't show any proof of ownership of the data it's sending (which causes the problem). I think I have a straight forward solution but I'll ponder it a bit more before digging in :-) I'd like to have the possibility to download from several nodes at once which makes things a bit more interesting.

Would you mind if I copy paste this conversation over to [email protected] ? I guess here it will disappear in the abyss...

Cheers

Valmond

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

sure, do that. and good luck with this, i did something similar for a project once and as usual its those last 5% that are going to cost you 90% of the time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you!

Ya, there was a saying in video game dev circles, when you have finished 90% of a game, that's good, because now you only have the other 90% to do...

What was that project, if you'd like to share?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it was nothing official, just a toy file sharing thing using the chord dht algorithm. it consisted of a single binary that you fed with a directory and the IP of an extant member, and it would sync everything on the network into that directory.

no edge cases handled, so the 90% remained.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting thing that Chord stuff.

Sounds like a good little tool to have there, it's always hell to share stuff among computers and phones and stuff! Guess overwriting from one side to the other (and vice versa) would be hell to fix in a user friendly manner though... If you don't go for a master/slave system, or git repo style...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

yeah one thing we couldn't fix before losing interest was eventual consistency and authority. files would sort of flicker in and out while state was being propagated. i dread to think what kind of bandwidth use that thing would have when sharing large files.