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Straight-up BS’: Democratic chair attacks Bernie Sanders’ election critique | Sanders’ analysis that Democrats lost because they failed working-class voters scorned by party chair Jaime Harrison (www.theguardian.com)

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Democrats are committed to losing and are turning towards "we gotta be more racist and transphobic".

Seth Moulton also turning on trans people and outright declaring himself transphobic after prior tweets recognising things like Trans Day of Remembrance.

https://x.com/SLCLunk/status/1854597079773200550

"Progressive era has to end" from Elise Jordan. When was there ever one?

https://x.com/LailaAlarian/status/1854151933117788193

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That's why I favor building a labor party and splintering the Democrats away from their shitty party. Their party is full of people who do not belong and would be more at home in a different party, if we had a system that wasn't so unfavorable to third parties.

The only choice is to replace the Democrats as the only other party. Let all the right-wing Democrats join the Republicans and we build a new party with everyone who is left.

Seems... Impossibly hard to do though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

there are already sizable third parties in the US, such as PSL, DSA and the Green Party. PSL in particular is always active in unions, protests and community programs, and lately they've shown they trust younger members to be out there and adjusting to the demands of the members.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Even if you added them all together they'd struggle to pull more than a couple percent.

It's an uphill struggle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ok, then stay home or keep voting democrat, but stop pretending you want change without doing anything to bring it about. Individualism and conformism is exactly what got the US here and both parties would be very happy if y'all stayed that way.

Politics is what happens before and after you cast the ballot. The vote itself might as well be a formality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Get off my nuts, I want to build a labor party. I just think it's going to be extremely fucking hard and we should recognize it. We still have to do it.

I heard an interesting idea on the Red Menace pod that tenant organizing might be the key to building a labor movement. Unlike AFL-CIA affiliates which are poisoned with labor aristocracy, almost all tenants are universally poor workers. That's a potentially huge source of power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I misread you, then, my sincere apologies. Seeing a lot of defeatism and it frustrates me because that didn't help a single bit in 2016 and only made 2020 worse. I agree on your point about the AFL CIO, which is why I'm fond of PSL, they're very principled domestically, regarding trans rights and on firmly anti-imperialist foreign policy and they're not part of the Washington aligned labor unions. The comrades I look up to the most are engaged in unions and organizing there.