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Jill Stein argues ‘Democrats betrayed their base’ (thehill.com)
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[–] UniversalMonk -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you realize that even if every person who voted for Jill Stein or any other third-party candidate had voted for Harris instead, Harris still would have lost?

The margin was big enough that, even without third-party candidates, Trump would have still won the popular vote.

So why are you mad at Jill Stein when her absence wouldn’t have changed the outcome at all?

[–] kata1yst 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Oh to be clear I don't care about her. At all.

What I do care about is the Green Party under her leadership ineffectually doing anything anywhere. There are candidates from a larger variety of political parties active in state politics than ever before in my lifetime. Communists, socialists, democratic socialists, libertarians, constitutionalists, independents, etc etc etc.

But the Green Party seems to enjoy spending all their money, time, and effort to do literally nothing outside of putting Jill's name on the national ballot once every 4 years.

If the Green Party truly stands for what they claim to, they should be trying to affect grassroots change every year.

[–] UniversalMonk 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well they have run in local elections and there are quite a few Green Party officials out there. But they should def by trying for more congress roles too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States (thanks to @[email protected] for the info)

State-Level Green Party Officials (Former)

  • Shane Robinson - Maryland, House, District 39 (2011-2019)
  • Henry Bear - Maine, House, District 144 (2013-2019)
  • Ralph Chapman - Maine, House, District 133 (2010-2019)
  • Fred Smith - Arkansas, House, District 50 (2011-2015)
  • Richard Carroll - Arkansas, House, District 39 (2009-2011)
  • John Eder - Maine, House, District 118 (2003-2007)
  • Matt Ahearn - New Jersey, General Assembly, District 38 (2002-2004)
  • Audie Bock - California, State Assembly, District 16 (1999-2000)

Current Green Party Mayors

  • Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois (2021-2025)
  • Bruce Delgado - Marina, California (2008-2024)
  • Emmanuel Estrada - Baldwin Park, California (2020-2024)

Former Green Party Mayors

  • John Reed - Fairfax, California
  • Mike Feinstein - Santa Monica, California
  • David Doonan - Greenwich, New York
  • Kelley Wearvering - Cordova, Alaska
  • Robb Davis - Davis, California
  • Peter Gleichman - Ward, Colorado
  • Jim Sullivan - Victory, New York
  • Jason West - New Paltz, New York

Current Green Party City & County Council Members

  • Sylvia R. Chavez - Calipatria, California
  • David Conley - Douglas County, Wisconsin
  • Josiah Dean - Dufur, Oregon
  • Becky Elder - Manitou Springs, Colorado
  • Bob Gifford - Portage County, Wisconsin
  • Renée Goddard - Fairfax, California
  • David Grover - Trinidad, California
  • Damon Jespersen - Newbury, Massachusetts
  • John Keener - Pacifica, California
  • Rebecca Kemble - Madison, Wisconsin
  • Paul Pitino - Arcata, California
  • Marsha A. Rummel - Madison, Wisconsin
  • George P. Steeves - Southbridge, Massachusetts
  • Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
  • Daniel Welsh - Lewisboro, New York
  • Heidi Weigleitner - Dane County, Wisconsin
  • Stephen Zollman - Sebastopol, California

Former Green Party City & County Council Members

  • Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois
  • George Altgelt - Laredo, Texas
  • Michael Beilstein - Corvallis, Oregon
  • Bruce Delgado - Marina, California
  • Jessica Bradshaw - Carbondale, Illinois
  • Michael Cornell - River Hill Village
  • Jennifer Dotson - Ithaca, New York
  • Kathleen Fitzpatrick - Mosier, Oregon
  • Gail Garrett - Mount Washington, Massachusetts
  • Matt Gonzalez - San Francisco, California
  • Cam Gordon - Minneapolis, Minnesota
  • Art Goodtimes - San Miguel County, Colorado
  • Daniel Hamburg - Mendocino County, California
  • Michelle Haynes - Norwood, Colorado
  • Gary Hull - Sharpsburg, Maryland
  • Tanya Ishikawa - Federal Heights, Colorado
  • Brian Kehoe - Catskill, New York
  • Jason Kirkpatrick - Arcata, California
  • Mary Jo Long - Afton, New York
  • Tom Mair - Grand Traverse County, Michigan
  • Sarah Marsh - Fayetteville, Arkansas
  • Merrily Mazza - Lafayette, Colorado
  • Gayle McLaughlin - Richmond, California
  • Ross Mirkarimi - San Francisco, California
  • Leland Pan - Dane County, Wisconsin
  • Dona Spring - Berkeley, California
  • Chuck Turner - Boston, Massachusetts

Other Green Party Local Officials (Current)

  • Michael Clary - Coos County, Oregon
  • Jennifer Baker - Napa Valley College, California
  • Matthew Clark - San Mateo County
  • Billy Gene Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
  • Carl D'Amato - Waterford, Connecticut
  • Daphne Dixon - Fairfield, Connecticut
  • Matt Donahue - Benton County, Oregon
  • Maureen Doyle - Southbridge, Massachusetts
  • Andrew Frascarelli - Waterford, Connecticut
  • Frank Gatti - Amherst, Massachusetts
  • Michael Paul Hansen - Humboldt County, California
  • Jane Jarlsberg - San Bernardino County, California
  • Joshua Steele Kelly - Waterford, Connecticut
  • Vincent O'Connor - Amherst, Massachusetts
  • Sharron Parra - Hyampom, California
  • Vahe Peroomian - Glendale Community College, California
  • John Powell - Montecito, California
  • Colleen Ann Reidy - Thompsonville, Connecticut
  • Rebecca Rotzler - New Paltz, New York
  • Leif Smith - Redding, Connecticut
  • Darcy Van Ness - Waterford, Connecticut
  • Baird Welch-Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
  • Randy Marx - Fair Oaks Water District, Sacramento County, California
  • Fred McCann - Portland Water District, Portland, Maine
  • Garrett Erven - Red Wing, Minnesota

Other Green Party Local Officials (Former)

  • John Amarilios - New Canaan, Connecticut
  • Korie Blyveis - Newberg Township, Michigan
  • Hector Lopez - New Canaan, Connecticut
  • Kim O'Connor - Hillsborough County, Florida
  • Jill Stein - Lexington, Massachusetts
  • Raymond C. Meyer - Lucas County Health Center, Iowa
  • Amy Martenson - Napa Valley College, California
  • MK Merelice - Brookline, Massachusetts
  • Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't believe you 🤷

Jill Stein couldn't govern a fucking paper bag lmao.

[–] UniversalMonk 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well, in the end it didn't matter. Harris lost by such a large margin, none of the votes that went to Jill Stein would have mattered anyway.