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Researchers have predicted the collapse of the AMOC could happen any time between 2025 and 2095 — far sooner than previous predictions, although not all scientists are convinced.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (6 children)

And they know how to fucking fix it but don't want to

It'd be like if in the movie Armageddon the government just said "Eh let's see if it really will be that bad if it hits us"

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

That movie felt way too real watching it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes but without the part where they tried

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We haven't gotten to that point yet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Without some sort of violent revolution, we won't, or time runs out but it's not a movie and there's no ship to another planet.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Great. That's exactly what we need now - more violence

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Revolutions take over where reason stops. The people in power have the means to do the right thing, but sometimes they look out for a few people and will destroy thousands. That's not a good option, as people get more desperate

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Climate change is not something that has a simple solution to it and governments just refuse to do so for whatever reason. That's a naive view that ignores all the complexity of this issue.

For example: stopping all carbon emissions is not going to stop climate change. Not only do you need to become carbon-neutral but you also need to get all the excessive carbon out of the atmosphere. How?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Why the extreme? Cutting back and investing in things that are better should be a mandate, not an idea or option. And certainly we cannot allow an administration to roll things backwards just because someone ~~bribed them~~ donated to their campaign

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If there's ever a time when it's justified, it's when our very existence is at stake.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Climate change is not an existential threat to humanity

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

To humanity? Probably not. To billions of people? Definitely yes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

This is because you're not sorting your recycling!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"We could do something about the asteroid, but think of the harm doing something could do to the shareholders!?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I was going to save humanity but I have a responsibility to a handful of shareholders that yell at me in meetings so... You can really see how hard this is for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's actually kind of too late now.

But, we may be able to prevent more bad stuff happening if we change things today!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IDK, I mean we know it's to do with carbon but we don't really know how to stop producing that in a timely manner.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Yes we do. Carbon tax.