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[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (19 children)

Because they don't want the workers voting.

If you "can't go to the ballot because you need to work" you are a plebeian, and so they have a way of excluding you while technically not excluding you.

A lot of modern oligarchy is powered by these technicalities. Technically everyone has a "right to" participate in the system, but the whole apparatus is rigged in such a way that in material reality only the same nobility caste that has called the shots since the bronze fucking age gets to call the shots.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (17 children)

By law employers are required to allow their workers an opportunity to vote. The problem is other stuff like taking their kids to school and having to go to work right after and by the time you make it to the poll through rush hour traffic, the line is out the door and they shut it down and don’t let you vote even though you waited for an hour.

[–] tquid 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My roommate asked for time off to vote; her employer literally laughed at her. Now, there is legal recourse there, and she would have likely won and even gotten awarded a money judgment.

But she needed that job without interruption. This was in Canada, by the way.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This is why you don’t ask.

Also, you don’t really need a whole day. I’m also Canadian. Employers are required to allow you time to do it, not an entire day.

I would phrase the question like this: “I need to take time to go vote. Would you prefer I take the morning or afternoon off?”

If they so no to both, you say “you know it’s illegal not to allow me time off to vote, right?”

I’ve changed careers since the last election, but as a driver I’d just say “I’m going to swing by the polling place in my way to or back from wherever” and it was never a problem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It really depends on how much you need that job to like

Not be homeless

And how hard it was to get the job in the first place.

You can make your legal rights count if you have options.

If you don't, you let your boss walk all over you and thank them for it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I mean you do have options. We have the labour board here in Canada.

You don’t tell your employer you’re talking to them. You let them contact the employer. They can’t fire you while an investigation is ongoing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

A job I had for a couple of years had really annoying emails sent based on badging in/out. When I'd come back from voting I'd get one for some out of office violation and would just reply to HR with a link to the MN statute requiring paid time off for voting:

https://www.sos.state.mn.us/elections-voting/election-day-voting/time-off-work-to-vote/

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